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feels good to be back over .500. Maybe the team bottomed out in May and early June. If so it's better then September. That said, this is probably a 82 win team at the end, and it won't be enough. The bullpen is comically bad right now. Offense is showing signs of life thanks mostly to Anderson but how long can he sustain these crazy multi hit games?

more bunts with one of our best hitters! Awesome!

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) All Anderson does is hit lasers. Another multi hit game First quick twitch AA Sox have had forever that can actually play a little baseball as well.

nice, glad to see he's finally improving his slash lines.

Wait, Davidson is playing? Has he actually hit his weight at AAA this year?

I respect all of you guys that continue to watch this on a nightly basis.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 07:18 PM) I still think if they believed he was going to put up six .280/30/100 seasons they would have kept him...and dealt Fielder instead, which they obviously ended up doing later. Yea the Tigers position player scouting is really good. Iglesias has had his ups and downs but he's probably the best player from that trade.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 06:55 PM) Not really. It was get them Top 100 prospect Frankie Montas, who got them Frazier (who has the same line statistically as Marcus Semien, roughly). Avi has actually gotten in the way of this team moving forward, in the same way Beckham, Viciedo, Gillaspie, DeAza, Ramirez and Flowers did. The most dangerous word for fans is "potential," because it has never-ending shelf life for GM's to sell it. Little Miggy. 30/30 potential. Incredible athlete. Has the tools to play CF. Elite throwing arm. Brian Anderson is the next Torii Hunter if he could just hit 20 homers, etc. Chris Marquez, Nestor Molina, Zach Stewart and Matt Davidson will lead the Sox to the World Series. Of course, "proven veteran performer" hasn't been comforting, either. Avi had a hit tool that played in the minors, much like Anderson at every level he was able to hit 280 or higher. With Avi it was more impressive because of his age. The rest of his tools didn't translate but you could hand wave it away with "he's young for the league". Well, he stalled. But when he was aquired there were legit saber and scouting reasons to be excited for him. The same was true of Viciedo. This guys just have not developed. Given the Sox' complete lack of position player development the finger might be pointed not at the scouts that said "get this guy" but the coaches and instructors that were not able to mold that clay. Now obviously some guys won't ever develop no matter how great the coaching but I'm not sure that's the case with Avi. I think poor coaching and instruction has held him back, Viciedo and Beckham as well. I mean Avi put up a 312 average in 200+ PA at AA as a 19/20 year old. That's pretty much elite hit tool for that age. That he hasn't produced anything close to a 270 average in a full season in MLB since becoming a Sox is damning imo.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 27, 2016 -> 07:40 PM) He has an incredibly quick bat, so he can get to alot of balls all over the plate. Thats going to help him a bit. Yep. Need to avoid the dreaded "core injury" during his career because he relies on his bat speed to generate almost all his offensive value.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 27, 2016 -> 07:36 PM) 31 walks in 471 plate appearances his rookie season is hardly Moneyball. 6.6%. Obviously, he picked it up after that, but I was thinking back to my impression of when he first came up with the Sox in 1995. In the minors, 168 walks in 1568 at-bats. 10.7% 11.1% walk rate over his entire major league career. Fine, in every aspect of their games (besides walk rate), they have similarities. Anderson has a better arm. The one area that Ray was excellent at defensively was going into shallow OF or into foul territory for those basket catches....he had huge range on those balls, but not as much on the infield/laterally. If you want to compare Anderson to another AA former Sox Lance Johnson is a much better comp. Great hit tool, tall rangy athlete, not much patience, decent amount of pop, not a great natural base stealer despite the speed.

Not even close to comparable in anything but potential WAR impact. Most of Durham's value came from his patience. Not sure about you but Franks' ridiculous OBP was always a conversation point when he was being talked about as one of the best batter's eyes ever along with Ted Williams.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jun 27, 2016 -> 12:07 PM) in fairness to the Beckham comparison, I think Anderson has a much quicker swing, livelier bat, etc than Gordon did. TA is a fast twitch athlete and that informs everything he does on the field. From his bat speed to his defense. He can get around on balls Gordon could only dream off and ditto with his range. Gordon was essentially an average athlete by MLB standards, TA is an outstanding one. TA has a lot of developing left to do but I don't see any reason to think his floor isn't decent starter. Unlike many guys the Sox draft there's enough raw athleticism that translates to production, including in his swing and the way he can clear his hips and get his hands on top of the ball, to think as long as he's healthy he'll always have a shot to hit 300 with 20 HR. I'm impressed. His bat speed continues to play at every level. Kid knows how to make hard contact.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 04:44 PM) The 4 big name relievers were all unavailable according to Ventura are you f***ing kidding me? Man the f*** up. It's all hands on deck the rest of the year. This team just really pisses me off. Not sure if RV is covering his own ass but how about challenging your men to step up when guys are hurt in a big mid-summer game? I honestly question if these guys would p**** foot around like this if RV wasn't such a pushover.

lmao, RV and this bullpen is like dipping a rag in kerosene and giving it to a pyromaniac a long with a pack of matches. Game was there to win, RV pretended it wasn't for a minute, and that cost them. Yea the pen sucks but that just makes using it smartly even more important.

Good thing RV once again wrote off a game before it's over.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 02:25 PM) I maintain that it helps when you throw strikes problem is, as we've found "a strike" varies. Having a good framing catcher helps, alot.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 06:28 PM) What is purpose of shuck? Seriuosly? When saladino went in to run for avila, navarro should have hit for schuck. What is the purpose of Avi? He's had almost 250 PA and his wRC+ of 81 is actually WORSE than last year. I'm sick of these bums. Why are we the only f***ing org that cannot find a cheap, halfway productive DH? Scouting, that's why. Scouting and player development.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 05:04 PM) Hahn is coming up with a new fireable offense every week if he does that. The White Sox system used to be good at least at producing serviceable relievers. Ynoa has some potential, but Beck just doesn't belong at the major league level. Albers is toast and his confidence is shot. Jennings and Duke have been the bright spots. Robertson is starting to teeter as well. Don Cooper isn't earning his paycheck anymore.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 03:36 PM) Good call by Robin there, having him throw a sac fly instead of a grand slam. I would have called strikeout, though. what's your deal? He inserted Chris Beck into a high leverage situation. he does this repeatedly. It's playing with fire. It's also very unbecoming for a mod to troll like this imo.

WHy is Avi still on this 25 man roster?

signs of life. I'll take it. At the end of the day and season this is probably a .500 club. At least try and make it an interesting Sep.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 07:37 PM) For reference's sake that is the 32nd runner the Red Sox have lost on the bases this year. The White Sox have lost 23. sample bias, lol. Sox have a much lower "N" value.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 08:04 PM) @ChiTribKane With 2 runs so far tonight, White Sox end streak of giving Jose Quintana 1 run of support or less in 7 straight starts. jesus.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 02:49 PM) What is the percentage of advancing runners when not bunting? I'm guessing nowhere near 64%. In a tight game, depending on the hitter, there is no reason to moan about a bunt. The vast majority of the time you play for one run, you score one run. With such a s***ty offense giving away outs is pouring gasoline on a tire fire.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 02:37 PM) Is it worth noting again that the White Sox are only right now successful on 64% of their bunt attempts (which is right at the league average)? 1/3 of the times guys try to bunt, they fail to successfully sacrifice before there are 2 strikes on the batter, on average. Some guys are better than that, but some guys are also much worse. So about 1/3 of the time the bunt is called for, the out is given away without accomplishing anything. For comparison, in the runner on first, 1 out or less case, the White Sox hit into a DP 11% of the time. exactly! Bunt defenders seem to treat the players like robots that will always get a good bunt down. Guess what, it's 2016 and most MLB players suck ass at bunting. That is must mind blowing that 34% of the time the Sox are just saying "here, have this out". f***ing s*** man. I'm glad I took a step back from this season I'm getting enraged again at the stupidity of this org.