Balta1701

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 08:49 PM) Terrible special teams play, completely flat offense, quick td for the other team. Sounds like a typical bears start. Hey, give them some credit, that wasn't a quick TD, it took 12 plays and we're 6:30 into the game. That's progress!!!!

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 06:34 PM) What is the over/under on Rodgers completions his first 15 passes tonight? 11.5? 7 of his first 8. Good shot on the over.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 08:31 PM) Well, the Packers aren't winning yet. There it is. 17 minutes, not bad.

A return to the 12 with a block in the back. Yup. Still less painful than Brooklyn 99.

Well, the Packers aren't winning yet.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 06:02 PM) Bulls have been talking to Ray Allen this week. Interesting Thought he signed with Cleveland?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 05:00 PM) Where is this all-in talk coming from? What else would you call trading for a guy like Samardzija? 1 year remaining on his deal, already traded by the Cubs since they didn't think he'd sign an extension, on a team that was a playoff caliber team last year.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 04:51 PM) Its very possible rodon better then shark. But it's virtually impossible that Rodon would outpitch Samardzija this year in a 200+ inning season. If you're all in on 2015, Rodon isn't a middle of the rotation option.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 03:22 PM) My guess is the ones who hate bargain shopping are the ones who would love to load the wagon for one year of Shark. He was replying to a person who regularly complains about how bargain shopping is a waste of money and who complained about people wanting to trade for this guy.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 02:55 PM) None of Rodon, Danish, Anderson or Montas should be anywhere near a Shark trade. Then there's absolutely no reason for Beane to deal him to us whatsoever.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 02:38 PM) Why can't the White Sox contend with Tank in LF? Did 2012 never happen? He's actually gotten progressively worse every single year since then, with last year being hands down his worst season, both offensively and defensively. He shouldn't even be offered arbitration with how bad he performed last year. And 2012 was not a successful season either. They won 85 games, which was where Cleveland finished last year, well outside of the playoffs. Like you just said, selling out the entire minor leagues in order to get to 85 wins isn't a very good move.They also only got to that point through quality defense...which as we all have seen has absolutely vanished with this team the subsequent 2 years, leaving us needing even better offense and pitching just to get to that same point.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 02:04 PM) I don't think that's ever been suggested, I said he was untouchable. Just to nitpick here but in the VMart thread when I suggested plugging Anderson in at SS 2 years from now you called that rebuilding. I of course agree with it...I don't neccesarily agree that we have "many" major holes. It could be argued that the only true hole is DH and a late inning reliever. I think we can "contend" with Tank in LF and a rotation that will soon be Sale-Q-Rodon-Noesi-Danks. There's certainly room for upgrades at 3B/SP/C and yet another RP to go on top of said hole in the pen but I wouldn't call them major holes. First, on the bolded, Oh god no. Totally disagree. Second, Rodon has never pitched more than 130 innings in a season, and that was at the college level. I'm ok with someone saying we're going to work him into the rotation this season, but there is absolutely no way you're going to count on him to be a mid-rotation starter. That is a very, very weak rotation when your #3 guy might be exhausted by 150 big league innings.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 12:36 PM) What I don't understand is people still rip KW for gutting the farm system when he traded forgetble players for productive ones, now they want to trade the prospects they have been raving about for perhaps one yer of Heyward or Samardjia. Because its the only way to fill a roster with this many major holes if we also are thinking about signing any high-priced free agents.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Nov 8, 2014 -> 11:59 AM) What the hell is in the water in Minnesota? The I-35 Bridge. Too soon?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 8, 2014 -> 05:41 PM) If you trade for Samardzija and can't workout an extension during this off-season or mid-season, you can at least offer a qualifying offer next off-season while still trying to work out a deal for him to come back so you can at least re-coup something if he were to sign somewhere else from a potential deal. The value of a comp pick is so far behind the value of a guy who is 1-2 years away from potentially reaching the big leagues that it really shouldn't factor into your thinking. At the very least you'd be talking about a guy 5 years away. If you can't sign him long term, you can't do that trade.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 06:43 PM) It would be easier to answer who doesn't want Heyward, and having him on a cheap long term deal. A much more realistic question is whether you'd be willing to trade some combination of "Basically everything in the system other than Rodon" for him and whether you'd be willing to sign him for something closer to a $150 million total deal.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 02:57 PM) WHICH IS THE REAL KRUSTY? Without the loop it is nothing.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 02:49 PM) how do you know which one was the real person? what if the real person voted first and second was committing fraud? 2 people are in an elevator. Suddenly the scent of a fart appears in said elevator. Clearly this case is unsolvable.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 02:14 PM) yeah, same day registration takes care of those. And if you vote first, before the real person shows up, what are they going to do, go fishing in the ballot box for the one illegally cast? Once cast, it is a done deal. Yes, that's exactly what they'd do, and it wouldn't be nearly as hard as "fishing in a ballot box" even with card-reading machines from 20 years ago.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 01:51 PM) Except for 1 season, basically every White Sox performance since any of us has been alive has been "wasted". The one thing worse than trying to win and failing, is not trying at all. I dunno, I'd say that trying as hard as possible and having it screw up the following 3 seasons (see: our last set of "all-in" moves) is actually worse than not trying at all since that one screwed up half a decade of baseball.

Jesus, people who actually do this for a living think Rasmus will get 3/36?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 01:48 PM) And for 3/45, I think people wouldn't have nearly as much problem with this. I would (See explanation detailed above).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 01:43 PM) BS. His average season would look very nice in the middle of the White Sox line up, and may make some pitchers pitch to Abreu. His average career year is very similar to Carlos Beltran., who as a free agent, was 1 year older than Victor, and received $45 million for 3 years. And as I just pointed out in excruciating detail, While his average season would look fine in the middle of the white sox's order, the end result of Scott Downs 2.0 in the bullpen and Bassitt, Noesi, and Danks making up 3/5 of the rotation would leave that bat extremely likely to be wasted. And since you said BS, I'll note - it's factually accurate that last season was the 2nd most walks he's ever had in a season and by far the lowest strikeouts he's ever had in a full season. Thus, my statement remains accurate.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 01:36 PM) To show how much the game has changed, Martinez is the only qualified hitter who walked more than he fanned. Which, again, has now happened exactly 2 times in his career, continuing to enforce my point that the desire for him remains based on a ridiculous performance last year that the team signing him is unlikely to get.

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 12:07 PM) While I get pissed at the Republican Party for what I believe are voter suppression tactics, the Democrats that have control in various places in the USA hardly over-extend trying to use their power to get more people to the polls. The goal of both parties ought to be to get as many people to vote as possible with as little fraud as possible. One party is just focused on the fraud and the other party isn't focused on anything. You couldn't spend too much money on trying to make sure your country gives a voice to as many people as possible. This is flat out incorrect. There are plenty of safeguards to prevent people from voting illegally already. There's not even an "enforce the laws we have" joke to be made here, they already are enforced and they work fine - about the only thing that genuinely makes voter fraud possible is the presence of absentee ballots and to get your hands on those you have to jump through several hoops. Otherwise you've got several steps before a single person can vote. Voter impersonation is nearly impossible (you need to know 100% that no one you're impersonating will come to the polls on their own otherwise they'll ask how their name got checked off as having already voted!), illegal immigrants have both difficulties with registering to vote and not having their names on the rolls when they show up, and law enforcement does a fine job of enforcing these laws in the cases of small time voter fraud.