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QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:46 PM) the 2005 team looked like s*** on paper too. I didn't think so. I loved that roster coming into the season and had many drunken rants to that effect. That was the most complete roster the Sox had sported any year since 1994.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:42 PM) I understand...but what's to say they don't continue the success? Are you saying they can't win even with these guys producing? Honestly, yeah, I don't think this team can hang the whole season with the Tigers, and I think a 2nd half slump is inevitable with the guys they're relying on in the starting rotation. The 2nd wild card is the only reason I might reconsider, but I still think the biggest thing that needs to happen is this team needs to be 100% set up going into 2013, which means losing a whole lot more games trying to turn Morel, beckham, and Viciedo into something, and clearing out those incredibly risky contracts if at all possible.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:39 PM) I'm all 4 Fuko playing more with tank struggling Totally, completely opposed. Passionately.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:38 PM) It's really tough...the thing that makes it tough is its a new coaching regime...you'd like to give them a chance to actually win... I know, I know, it sounds crazy, but I wrote in December that if Dunn and Rios (and Peavy) were successful enough that you could move them without having to eat too much of the $100 million remaining on their deals, you just have to do it...and being close to contention isn't going to change that. THat's just how I feel about this team. I'll enjoy the wins, but I'm still focused on getting where we need to be in 2013-2014, and clearing those 2 contracts would be the biggest help we could do.

Nicely Done Fuku.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:36 PM) I kinda love Alex Rios right now. He's doing his best to earn it

Rios loses a bat but there we go again.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:31 PM) If we're in first place in July and Rios and Dunn are both hitting, it's absurd to trade either of them. That's telling your fans they can go f*** themselves. Well, unfortunately, you know that wouldn't be the first time with this franchise. I know it wouldn't happen, so we wouldn't have to worry about it, but yeah, if I were in the GM slot, I'd take my team out of contention to clear those 2 contracts. THat'd leave the Sox with >$50 million to spend on the FA market next offseason just to get back to this level of salary. That's the kind of money that could put Cano into this lineup and Hamels into the rotation.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:31 PM) you really don't buy Dunn bouncing back? I honestly see him hitting 30+ homers this year with a .850+ OPS. No reason to think he can't do it. Even if he was hitting like that...yeah, I'd still be more than willing to let him go. The White Sox paid a premium price for him to try to compete last year. They failed in that effort, so it's hard for me to figure out how paying a premium price for a DH who is 2 years older for the next 2 years could be any sort of good idea.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:29 PM) on Rios maybe. you hang onto Dunn. Honestly...no I wouldn't. Not with where this team is right now. If you can clear that extra $25 million and get rid of the risk of those guys doing nothing next year...I might let them go even if in first place.

Because he's not on the Tigers and you're in the wrong thread (I got caught last week, so now I get someone)

Let's Roll Addy.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:18 PM) of course it's very low. but if the odds are 1 in a 100,000 (or whatever you decide the number is) and Adam Dunn had the worst season ever, then he WAS that ONE wasn't he? Rios was terrible, but i'd say his season wasn't as much a statistical anomaly based on the fact that he's always had streaks of awful. Which by definition means it's not just random baseball luck. You're now talking issues of physical and mental preparation.

'Nother hit/RBI for Mitchell.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:17 PM) Axelrod is really dominating in AAA. 26 K to 4 BB on the year. That's the kind of stats that get you promoted. Not that the Sox need another SP and I don't want him in the bullpen, but you can never have enough pitching. Well, like they said earlier there's a May 7 double-header, and if people are being moved around, Stewart isn't really getting any use and hasn't been effective so far.

Thought Lillibridge was out there. Edit: Ackley tagged the ground first.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:07 PM) why not? Because the probability of each individual guy going from near all star level to worst in baseball by random luck is very low, out of the hundreds of thousands (millions?) of seasons in MLB history. So your chances of it happening to 1 guy randomly should be on the order of 1 in 100,000. The odds of it happening to 2 guys, independently, would be that number squared, so 1 in 100,000,000,000. The way to change that math is to have it not be independent/random.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:06 PM) If he's there at 19, I'd have a hard time passing on that talent. He's a physical specimen and pairing him with Marshall on the outside with Bennett in the slot, combining that with Forte/Bush? That's a deadly offense. Plus, I'd love to get my hands on Dwayne Allen or Orson Charles at TE. But if you can trade down a few picks and add another pick, I wouldn't be against it, depending on who's available. It's hard to speculate until it unfolds. I hear the case for it, and I was as big of a fan of adding a WR as anyone this offseason, but that was pre-Marshall. Right now when I look at that roster, the biggest place I could see an upgrade happening for this year is DE, giving extra passrush opposite Peppers. I put WR in that 2nd tier, along with LT.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:05 PM) What exactly is wrong the DLine, did I miss something? Paea, Melton, Idonije, Peppers... I thought that was pretty good. Paea is pretty young and unproven, Melton is pretty inconsistent so far, Idonijie is sorta a decent backup right now, Peppers is still great, but the Bears need a bigger pass rush from that opposite side and more strength in the center of their line. Right now it looks like they could use a starting DE opposite Peppers and another rotation player at DT (although Paea could step up and make that part into more of a strength).

Thankfully Brent caught that one.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:05 PM) or it's the law of averages coming into effect. but, yeah, Manto too. 2 separate guys don't go through 2 of teh worst 20 seasons with the bat in MLB history by normal random probability.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 06:02 PM) Just get Morel going already Ah, ok, gotcha.

Bleepin leadoff walk.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 05:58 PM) Nevermind...you apparently haven't noticed Seriously, would love to know what I missed.

Great work Rivers