Balta1701

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 03:42 PM) Their incompetence is definitely worthy of anger, but step back and think that they actually tried. Perhaps somebody incorrectly labeled evidence or some s*** and that's why it had to be dropped. Now if something like that is actually what happened, is that worse than high ranking members of PSU not following through on allegations? I don't think so. And I'm only asking under that caveat; that the police f***ed up some small detail that rendered the case inadmissible. Of course it's entirely speculation...but based on how odd that police/DA action appears to be...would folks be surprised if the reason why the police didn't push forwards farther winds up actually being "It was Penn State Football"?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 03:31 PM) I honestly think he would admit this was a failure on his part. Then my question in reply is...if you felt like you'd made that kind of failure, where people legitimately got hurt because you failed to act...and you were in a public position like this, and you had a lifetime of earnings to fall back on (thus you didn't need the job)...why wouldn't you fall on your sword and step aside immediately? I mean, be honest...if Joe Paterno understands the situation, then he knows that Joe Paterno is going to be the story until Joe Paterno is out of the way. If he doesn't want his actions or lack thereof to be the story, if he doesn't want the kids on his team right now to have to deal with it, if he doesn't want the University Trustees to have to deal with deciding whether or not to fire him when they fire the university President tomorrow, then step aside. Right now.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 03:15 PM) It pretty much seems like he did that, Balta. Can you back that one up? Because the reaction of the Penn State folks seems to have been "you can still come on campus just don't bring kids".

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 03:08 PM) Well I'm sorry, but I just don't hold him as responsible for not chasing this guy down and the vast majority of you guys. Some people just don't want to be involved in sick s*** like that. But he continued allowing that person access to his facilities and presumably continued staying in contact with him. Unless he completely shut the door with him and never spoke to him again after the allegations, he was directly involved in sick s*** like that.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 03:06 PM) Yup. PSU should be cleaning house, and Paterno's cocky statements about how the board shouldnt spend another minute thinking about his job status only make him look worse. Wait, he said something to that effect? That sounds godawful.

Well, the fact that Adobe has finally announced it is giving up on flash for mobile devices means it won't be long before Tex can access anything he wants.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 02:51 PM) I had, but you don't really give a crap my little stalker. I see, so you've decided to go down the road of public namecalling.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) Sometimes it takes some time for a player to develop. GB was rushed to the majors and has played two different positions from what he was a great college star at and he has done very well in the field. Plus sometimes you just have to have patience with young developing talent. Apparently we have a limited amount of that and think we have to have an instant Babe Ruth or the player is a failure. Actually yes, we do have a limited amount of that...for financial reasons. This is Gordon Beckham's last $500k league minimum salary season. Next year he is eligible for arbitration. If he hits like he did this year, then he will suddenly be earning a lot more money to be a defensive replacement at 2b. That is a major problem...that is why you run out of patience. You might be able to get by on his defense if that continues to be solid, for 1 season, but there's no way he'd get offered arbitration on his 2nd year, where his salary would push upwards of $5 million. It's not about some arbitrary "patience". That's the MLB schedule. He has 1-2 more seasons before he would become a DFA candidate at his current production level.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 02:48 PM) Which is negated by the trillions pushed out to hold rates down. And again, there is plenty of inflation located outside of the housing sector. Which you consistently claim while never producing a shred of data to support.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 02:29 PM) And Paterno is getting reamed Possibly not the best choice of words given the case at hand.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 02:21 PM) Well that's fine then. I guess you have no problem with using the rapes of teenage boys to make money off a story about a football coach. GMAB man, you can say this exact same thing about any terrible situation. I guess you have no problem with terrorism since the media made money off of running ads when September 11th happened. I mean, this is nonsense.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 02:17 PM) So you do not see the problem with Paterno losing his job as a freaking football coach being the bigger story than a child molester holding summer camps on the campus of Penn State? Honestly, no. One of these would be a large local story. One of these would be a large national story.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 02:15 PM) Oh, so now Paterno is a gang member and a bank robber, because he was the main figurehead? So by your analogy, Paterno is a child molester? Do you see why this being reported this way is a problem? Frankly, no.

The NCUA is reporting an extra 40,000 people signed up with accounts at a credit union on "Bank transfer day", a rate 24 times higher than a normal day, and still double the rate that has been seen since BofA announced their $5/monthly debit card fee.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 02:10 PM) I personally have no sympathy for Paterno. It's unfair that he's being labeled as the main bad guy here, but it's like blaming a member of a gang that robs banks for killing a guy when it was one of the other members. The guy is still a bank robber and as long as they all go down, I don't care about the individual sentences. That's just my opinion, though. Who exactly is labeling him "The main bad guy". He committed a fireable offense. I don't think anyone here has suggested he go to jail. The people above his head are facing legit jail time, as is the actual main bad guy.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 01:57 PM) I don't think that's fair. If this happened at Montana State, I'd think that there would still be criminal charges, coaches and AD's would still be shown the door, etc. This is only getting media attention after the GJ indictment. If this happened at "Insert your random school here", there probably would be no hesitation on the part of the university to clean house. There'd be no "Resign at the end of the year".

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 01:48 PM) Gloria Allred, or however you spell her name. She doesn't work for free, so she got access somehow. And should we believe her MORE because she is poor? According to Ms. Allred's statement, she has taken this case pro bono.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 01:45 PM) No, the problem is that Paterno is the story now. And if you don't take the time to actually read the facts, you might think Paterno actually molested children himself. And then 20 years from now, Paterno's name is going to come up, and someone is going to say "isn't that that old geezer who coached Penn State for 50 years and was caught molesting kids?" The media needs to be more responsible with the story instead of just irresponsibly making this into what will get the biggest ratings or website hits. WTF? Seriously, can you point to an example where even a cursory reading of the story would leave a reader with that impression?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 12:41 PM) You aren't taking into account massive government manipulation and using it to hold up that the WSJ was wrong when the only reason they weren't wrong was said manipulation. The mechanisms haven't been wrong. There has been intervention to the tune of trillions of dollars that changed things. You're also failing to take into account the Fed intervention on the opposite side, pumping out newly created "cash" in exchange for trillions of dollars worth of mortgage backed securities.

Just from some blog, so no guarantee on the numbers. Googled "2011 MLB Managerial ejections" and this was on the 2nd page.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 01:13 PM) Not if you violate the stated chain of command. There are more steps to this here though. In Paterno's position, he has plenty of power to keep pushing the issue. Remember, this is a guy he has to deal with constantly. This is one of his assistant coaches, a person he is around probably every day. Report to the supervisor, then don't follow up? Is that what you'd really do if a person you had to deal with every day was accused by another person you knew of this sort of action? Once you've gone up the chain of command, if the chain of command decides not to act, that's not necessarily the end, especially for a person in Paterno's position. A 28 year old assistant coach is easy to fire. Joe Paterno is not.

If this were happening at one of my Alma Maters, I'd say "Not good enough."

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 09:47 AM) Question - What's the US exposure for this? I'm sure we have our hands tied with the EU, so a drop of a country or two would hurt investors and banks here....but how much? Wouldn't the dollar have a really solid period of growth so that long-term it would be a benefit for the US? Or is that totally wrong? Reuters has a ridiculously well done graphic allowing you to check how exposed banks and the public sector are to the debt of each of these European countries, and an additional sub-graphic that allows you to break down public/privately held debt exposure for the PIIGS countries.

So, last night, voters around the U.S.: Decisively rejected Ohio's Wisconsin-style anti-union law. Decisively rejected an effort in Mississippi to declare a fertilized embryo a "Person". Decisively rejected an effort in Maine to end election-day voter registration Recalled the author of Arizona's SB 1070. I'm not going to draw any larger trends regarding next year...but that is a pretty decent set of results for the country.

Carimi still out for Lions game. As long as no one on the line gets hurt, this isn't that bad. Anyone goes down though and it's Omiyale time.