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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 03:25 PM) And there is to having the world think your government is? Well, we're going to find that out on about August 3rd at this rate.

A F***ING REPUBLICAN JUDGE VOTED TO APPROVE THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE! THE WORLD IS ENDING! REPENT, REPENT YOUR SINS NOW!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 03:13 PM) We do exactly this for accounting fraud, except for jobs and income. Because there's no downside to having the rest of the world believing that your accounting standards are shoddy and worthless.

A person turned away at the polls who wants to vote legally is just as effective a method of committing voter fraud as bringing a person in to vote twice.

Obviously. Wait, why?

Might have visited IU after he was on SNL as well.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 02:58 PM) ASB Ok, so Greinke is getting shut down after the AS break? Otherwise it doesn't make much sense to call him a "Half year rental".

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 02:58 PM) Using your logic, since you are OK with registration of guns, are you OK with attaching your name to your vote in the public record? You already do when you vote. I can take your name and tell you exactly which elections you've voted in, just not which candidate. (Hence why voter fraud is so hard to actually pull off).

Keep my libido going.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 02:43 PM) Their starting pitching situation is considerably worse than before and Montero is arguably not even their best catching prospect anymore. Danks also isnt a half year rental like Greinke was. It's not that ridiculous. Greinke was only going to pitch April-June?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 02:55 PM) This is why its fully understandable to, again, establish identification for purchasing guns. But that is not at all the same as registration of those guns, which guts the heart of 2A. Well, first of all, no we do not require identification for purchasing guns, especially at gun shows. And secondly, so it's ok to require restrictions that deny people their constitutional right to vote, but it's not ok to require registration for gun ownership?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 02:54 PM) Corporate Accounting Fraud isn't rampant, in fact we have had very, very few convictions of it. The fraud is illegal. Why not repeal the Sox requirements costing companies billions of dollars? Oh, ok, thank you for coming out in favor of registration for gun owners. I'm surprised you'd be willing to go that far.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 02:52 PM) The State of Indiana will provide people with an ID for voting purposes. But you will agree it has not done so already?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 02:49 PM) #1 in what? Being the greatest, best country god ever gave man on the face of the Earth. Of course. Silly.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) Voter fraud, in general, is not "rampant", I think we can all see that. But we can also all see that it does happen, in various forms. So why is it bad to act on that? One other worthwhile point. Gun crime is not, in general, rampant. I've never been victim of it. But we can all see that it does happen, in various forms. So why is it bad to require registration for everyone who owns a gun? The response should, of course be..."well, gun crime is illegal. Why are we punishing people who are following the law for the actions of criminals?" Voter fraud is illegal. When there are allegations of voter fraud, they are acted upon. Same story. Asking "Why is it bad to act on that" is the wrong question...the United States already does act on it by investigating it as a crime and arresting people if it happens (and it's a very, very, very difficult crime to get away with).

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) So really, if people are asking for ID's, the fear boils down to, what if they have no ID? If ID's cost money or there are blockades to getting them that are beyond what is necessary to vote, then I agree that's an issue. But its really simply solved - if a state mandates ID must be shown to vote, then the state also needs to provide a way for all people who could be eligible to vote to obtain an ID of some kind free of charge. At that point, its not a poll tax, and the path is there for doing so, while you address some types of voter fraud. What is the problem with that? The other problem is that it can be very difficult for people with incomplete documents, physical limitations, lack of transportation, or working-hour jobs to get ID. You can come up with a dozen other reasons. The answer is not to make it easy for everyone to get an ID. The answer is to provide everyone with a valid ID, at state expense, if you want to institute one of those laws. Which also means hunting down the people who are difficult to find, at state expense. If the state is not proactively doing so, then the state is disenfranchising people.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 02:33 PM) I sure don't remember it as "spectacular". Hell, you're the one who spent half a year getting "Joshua Fields Forever" stuck in my head every time he hit a big HR.

However, it's extremely easy to find reports of actual voters turned away by the voter ID law.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 01:46 PM) Roll of the eyes. That was kind of the point.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 01:35 PM) Keep repeating it, too many people already accept it as the truth. Ok, I'll keep repeating untrue things. Voter ID laws are a necessary step to prevent voter fraud. Voter fraud is rampant in this country. Voter ID bills do not discriminate against African Americans or the poor. The Republican party wants to encourage minorities to vote and would never dare take steps to intimidate them away from their legal right to vote.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 09:18 AM) OUCH. That's clearly Kenny Williams's fault.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 01:31 PM) I could see an MLB style cap structure where the "soft cap" is 45 million, but if you go over you have to pay $ for $ into a revenue sharing structure. This is exactly what they currently have right now.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 01:24 PM) when it is 20% turnout, any fraud would have a much larger effect than at say 50%. If you turn away all the black people poor people people who don't have the appropriate form of ID, then that makes the vote of the white person rich person person with the ID count more.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 02:38 AM) can't imagine there is a worse offensive regular at 3rd base in baseball Your imagination doesn't work very well. Miguel Tejada is sporting a .566 OPS. Toronto's platoon of Jayson Nix and John McDonald each are sporting .550 OPS's. Brandon Inge, Melvin Mora, Brandon wood each have >100 at bats and are down there. Then...there's Chone Figgins. Let's just not go there.