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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 29, 2010 -> 04:40 PM) None of the currencies you pointed out has been free from this practice to some extent or another. Then please point one out for me where oil prices are dropping. Because if oil prices are going up in all of them, then it can't be the "Weak dollar" that's doing it.

You should mark the spot with something else.

Obviously you need to go lick a few things and tell me about them, then.

Maybe a few too many details again.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 29, 2010 -> 04:25 PM) Because their currency is tied to the dollar? Please point me to the right currency to look at then, where oil and commodity prices are dropping substantially right now.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 29, 2010 -> 04:18 PM) How old is he? He certainly comes off as a 15 year old. Turns 25 in January.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 29, 2010 -> 04:16 PM) Meaning that this is a deliberate action, with known results, and not some random forces of nature that can't be controlled. There is a big difference there. The way to control it though is to shrink the economy, globally.

If the rise in commodity prices were entirely due to the fall in the dollar, then the countries who's currency is rising compared to the dollar shouldn't see the same effect. That is incorrect. Even China, which mandates commodity prices at the government level, is seeing rising prices.

I'd prefer a hootenanny.

For once, your words fit your outfit.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 29, 2010 -> 04:07 PM) That "Forces" being QE2. Yeah, a force towards economic expansion.

Doubt you've tried enough whale to make that determination.

Blue whales. Delicious blue whales.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 29, 2010 -> 03:53 PM) Mmkay. Of course... but we also have control of that economic picture and how we paint it... um, well, we used to. That's what I'm trying to get at here. They know that a weak dollar causes commodities to rise, and they keep throwing more money at the hopper... realizing all too well that the INTENDED consequences make people more dependant on the US govt. subsidies of how they want behaviors to go (i.e. $5 gas to make people get rid of their conventional cars - ain't nothing else gonna do it!). I know, I know, you all think I think it's some conspiracy... because it is. They know what they're doing. That's not it at all, and you ought to know better than this. Really, I'm reminded of the argument that commodity prices were skyrocketing in 2008 because of speculation, rather than supply and demand. The printing of money right now is trying to overcome the fact that we're in a huge output gap. Commodities are rising because it's starting to work; pumping out all that cash has in fact partially overcome the shock to the economy, and spending, particularly in the areas that weren't hit hard by bursting housing bubbles, has started to recover. Therefore, demand has started to recover for those commodities, and that's pushing prices right back up, because there isn't sufficient supply of cheap material to meet the demand.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 29, 2010 -> 03:44 PM) Short term, you're right, but every time the spigot gets turned on and the dollar is PERCEIVED to lose value, we get higher prices. There is a causation of this and a period of September and October and some graphs showing a period of time that can refute this isn't going to change that. Damn speculators. You're still missing one part...the changes in the dollar are happening as a result of the forces acting on the general economy, which is exactly what is impacting the oil market as well. This is a "Correlation not equalling causation" argument. The dollar value is changing because of the global economic picture, the price of oil is changing because of the global economic picture, therefore they're moving together.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 29, 2010 -> 03:39 PM) If you or I had been having these very same problems, guess what? Our employer would have to keep this quiet. Our employer would not be able to go running around telling other employees or other employers. Our employer would be probably even provide support in the form of therapy under our health insurance policy. So to act as though what the White Sox did was some amazing act of generosity is simply not true. It's called normal employment practice. It's the law. Bobby was immature what taking a shot at Ozzie, especially knowing the Guillen family as he does, but the White Sox need to distance themselves as an organization from Oney as quickly and quietly as possible. However Shack...if that behavior impacted my ability to do my work...and regularly did so, to the point that it was costing my employer performance...your employer would only tolerate it for so long, and if you decided to take public the fact that your employer fired you, in the form of a complaint about your treatment, your former employer would very likely respond by making public all that they'd done to help you.

Very little choice now, have to keep dumping plastic in, just to make sure.

Throw plastic at them!

Really, you're just saying "Stay out of the ocean".

Oceans 2969

Love to.

Just you wait

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 29, 2010 -> 02:59 PM) Oney should be canned from all White Sox facilities. I think that has already happened.

Google it, apparently.

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