Balta1701

X is a difficult letter to use in insults. Yes, this is the laziest use of X so far in this thread.

Haslem may be out for the season.

Very easy.

There are so many insults one could come up with on that remark...

Relish is unhappy with you.

Picky picky picky.

Now I know you can't be really from Chicago.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 02:57 PM) I can see Hamilton winning, but FIFTH? C'mon! Hamilton Miguel Cabrera Robinson Cano Jose Bautista Paul Konerko Which of those guys should PK14 have beaten?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 02:50 PM) That's sort of like asking, do you think that extending the Bush tax cuts is a priority for this Congress? The answer is both "yes" and "sort of", depending on how you slice Congress or Tea Party. The reason why I ask is...I'd answer "Yes, of course", because of my opinion of the relationship between the Tea Party and the rest of the party, as I outlined earlier. Frankly, if there was a Republican who spoke out strongly against that sort of bill, I'd say there's a good chance they'd face a "Tea party" primary challenge in 2012.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 02:36 PM) Not only is this further showing that divide I was referring to, but its also clearly not Constitutional. They know this of course, and they know it won't pass as an amendment, so that means this is pretty much just for show. What a sad waste of time. Be honest. Do you think that this bill is not a tea party priority?

Lakers coach Phil Jackson, in a Chicago ESPN 1000 interview, suggests he thinks it won't be long before Riley takes over coaching the Heat. Not that he's wrong, but I'm impressed about how tangled that web is.

Let's be honest though, that didn't stop you, did it Flax?

I wish my body would let me eat more.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 01:31 PM) I am diong that because you are using fangraph $ values to show me why he is a bargain and that is plain ridiculous and isn't what those dollar values were created for. I won't argue that he wasn't effective last year, he was, very much so. I'd argue that I'd have little confidence expecting 11 to 12 M per year production out of him. I wouldn't say he's a bargain and I don't think I've said that anywhere in this thread. Even when I posted the fangraphs values, in the same post, I said he was potentially slightly overpaid, but not so much that I'd think it was a terrible deal. Here's my direct quote: "You could argue they slightly overpaid him, but he's put up $8-$10 million a year+ production... " Do you disagree that if you look at either his last 3 years, or if you look at his career as a whole, he's put up the type of production that you'd get from a $10 million a year player? You called this a "stupid, stupid move". To me, a stupid, stupid move is giving a guy who's worth $5 mil a year that same deal, or giving a guy worth $10 million a year a 7/$121 deal, stuff like that. I don't see how I'd call this a stupid, stupid move.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 01:08 PM) Exactly, which is why I said you can't compare that value to what a player is making. The only thing you can do is take those numbers and use them as just another way to evaluate a players effectiveness, but to just say, well fangraphs says he is wroth this and is getting this than the difference makes him a steal or bust, well that is ridiculous. While you've spent time tryinga to convince me of something I already believe...that the fangraphs dollar system is complicated but still remains a useful way of looking comparitively at player value if you pay attention to the reasons why it does what it does...you still haven't argued at all about why the Huff deal is a terrible deal.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 12:51 PM) No one can be worth negative money. That is the point. So when you have guys in the negative, you now are ultra inflating the other parties. Really? You can't look at the White Sox's roster for the past 5 years and think that there are guys who it would have improved the team if they'd been replaced by random waiver wire acquisitions at the end of spring break? Andy Gonzalez, Brian Anderson, Mark Kotsay, etc.?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 12:51 PM) Inventory was at 13 months at one point this year, and its under 10 now. So no, its not growing right now - it was growing earlier this year. The red line is inventory, the blue line is year over year inventory. The red line plummetted and then spiked as a result of government policy. The Blue line has been more stable, as it should be, and is creeping upwards. There's no way you can look at the red line since early 2008 and say it has trended downwards at all. And the year over year numbers suggest to me that inventory growth is likely in the near term, which would force prices down further.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 12:44 PM) I agreed with you until the "can't be sold at current market rates". The pickup in activity says otherwise. And no one is saying the market is healthy or good. Just that its showing signs of coming back to life, slowly. And in the case of housing market, slowly is probably better than quickly. If that number isn't adequate to make my point...let's also add that year over year inventory is up 10% as well. For the last 2 years, year over year inventory has been negative as the bubble-built homes have been cleared out. The glut of houses on the market is actually growing, not shrinking. And this is not a shadow inventory effect.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 12:32 PM) I don't really like fangraph player values, in fact I downright hate them. The numbers they have mean very little and you can't just arbitrarily compare those numbers to what someone is getting paid. It is pretty impossible to be a -6 million per year player, imo. There's plenty to quarrel with, I'll grant you that, but you should get the point there. In 2008 he put up a .912 OPS, in 2010 an .891 OPS. He's not awful on defense, and in fact can do sorta what we wanted Kotsay to do in playing a couple positions in a pinch. Since 2002, he has had 2 years where his OPS+ has been less than 100. His career average = .283, with a .821 OPS and a 115 OPS+. You can tell me they overpaid by a couple million, but really, coming off the last few seasons, that was his value.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 12:24 PM) Stupid stupid stupid move. Why? Last 3 seasons, he's been worth $18 million, -$6 million, and $22 million, according to Fangraphs's player values. You could argue they slightly overpaid him, but he's put up $8-$10 million a year+ production, he's getting re-signed by a team that he helped win a ring, his deal is short, and they have a big, WS winning revenue boost to look at.

Well, there's the first big contract from the Tigers. I'd expect more are coming.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 11:33 AM) A 1% drop in home prices to according to CNBC. That really isn't bad. The market has to put in a bottom sooner or later, and if are at a 1% loss, it looks like we might be there. There are still more than 10 months of supply in the currently available market, with more waiting in the shadow market. Typically, prices are stable when there are about 6 months of supply available. There is still a glut of housing that can't be sold at current market rates.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 10:06 AM) I think the point is that blocking one half of all judicial nominees for political points is generally a bad idea, despite party affiliation. Yeah. Next term they'll get it right and block all of them.

Good luck with that.