Everything posted by Balta1701
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:42 PM) Combining the two plans would work. The only flaw is that it involves Mark Kotsay losing at-bats, which won't happen.
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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:33 PM) Or, 99.9% of it to listen to you talk, and that should be taken away and given to you. And of course, the difference between 35% tax rates and 39% top level tax rates is equivalent to wanting 150% TAX RATES ON EVERYONE NOT IN A UNION.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:32 PM) If we spent on the likes of Damon or Matsui, that money wouldn't be there now for Jackson, ARGUABLY. Yay?
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:30 PM) That the rich pay way more in taxes? Yes. No, that no one else pays any. Of course the rich pay more. They have 80%+ of the wealth in this country.
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Athletics (Braden 5-7, 3.77) @ White Sox (Danks 11-7, 3.23)
QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:17 PM) But he doesn't play them well (except maybe 1b). The utility guy should be Lillibridge. Teahen should fill Kotsay's current role as LH DH LH PH and back-up 1B. Even though he's a great guy and good teammate, there is no place for Kotsay after Teahen comes back. But Ozzie being Ozzie, either Lillibridge or Viciedo will be the one to get sent down. Let's hope KW overrules him and DFAs Kotsay. Make. Kotsay. A. Bench. Coach.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:28 PM) His Dodger career was hampered by injury and he was still not fully recovered with TB. He was pretty solid in 2008 though and 2009 with Detroit was pretty good. Something very subtle might make all the difference in the world. Carlos Silva went from garbage to fairly decent after he switched sides on the rubber. Again, that's what happens when you have a BABIP run.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:26 PM) I don't think the Sox were going to go with Freddy or Hudson in October. Maybe Freddy but you have no idea what he'll have left than. I'd rather have Freddy on the mound than Jackson, as it stands right now.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:11 PM) If that is the case, the lower brackets are in for a way higher negative percentage, even including all of the secondary stuff. Which is exactly what you guys have been saying.
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White Sox Acquire Edwin Jackson
QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:17 PM) I am not sure if this has been brought up but I hope his 149 pitch outing will not come back to haunt us later on. At the moment when I saw him throwing all those pitches I was like ehh that's not our problem. But now we will have to keep our fingers crossed He's been awful since then. 7.24 ERA. OPS against him of .908, in the 5 starts since that outing.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:23 PM) Matt Thornton definitely counts. If you really want to read some funny stuff Google Mariners message boards after they got rid of Thornton. They were about as giddy as we would be if Albert Pujols was the Sox new DH. The Phillies were the same way about Floyd.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:22 PM) Mitchell is a year out. He'll spend all of next year in the minors and than if all goes well be ready. Agressive, certainly, possible, absolutely. Obviously it is very dependent on him being healthy though, which is a major ?. I really don't believe you'll be right here at all, but we'll see.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:21 PM) Not a bad point. We could have Matsui easily and be b****ing about him. 14 HR, .752 OPS, the Halos have even used him in the field some because of injuries. Yeah, he'd have been overpaid if we'd beaten them out for him. But that's still 100 points of OPS better than Kotsay. That's probably still a win or two. That's breathing room.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:20 PM) Floyd has an ERA of just a tick higher than 1.00 since June 9th, right? He's given up 8 ER in his last 10 starts.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:20 PM) I don't think people realize how talented Jackson is. He was once considered a top 5 prospect in all of baseball, made his major league debut when he was 19 and seems fully recovered from surgery. If they have found a flaw that's easily correctible, he's going to be a pretty popular guy. If 3 other teams haven't corrected that flaw, then Cooper is better than any of us ever dreamed.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:19 PM) Buying at the deadline is a perfectly fine strategy, especially when there weren't a ton of great fits at the deadline. You guys all talk about Thome, but he isn't exactly a world beater. He'd clearly be a lot better than Kotsay but he still hasn't been that amazing and no one could have even assumed he'd put up the numbers he has thus far this year. No, but it was pretty darn safe to assume that Kotsay would be exactly this bad.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:16 PM) Have we ever picked up a pitcher with great stuff but needed some tweaking and that guy has turned it around that same season? Does Gavin Floyd count?
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:17 PM) We all saw how Dayan was BRUTAL in his adjustments to AA and AAA. It took him about 3 weeks to adapt to AAA and he was putting up an OPS of nearly 1.000 after that time. His first season, I'll grant you. You're wrong about AAA.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:13 PM) How is he a fringe 5th starter? 2008 he was rock solid in Tampa and in 09 he was freaking real good in Detroit. Neither of those years was he anything remotely close to a 5th starter. His numbers aren't great this year, but Arizona is just a s***ty place to pitch (ball gets little movement and everything jumps out of that place; it is much harder to pitch at than the cell, imo). Rock solid in 2008? He put up an ERA of 4.42 and a WHIP of 1.51. He was so rock solid that they dropped him from their playoff rotation and stuck him in the bullpen. I think that's basically the definition of a back of the rotation starter, the guy who gets dumped from the rotation. Last year, he had a really good first half...keyed by Comerica park and a .249 BABIP. Every other season in his career he's had a .315ish BABIP against him and that's given him an ERA around 5. In the 2nd half of 2005, he had a BABIP around .315 and wound up with...an ERA around 5. He's an ERA ~5 pitcher. Coop might be able to fix that, but right now, he's an ERA 5ish pitcher.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (TomPickle @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:14 PM) That seems incredibly optimistic. He was one of the more raw college players in the draft and now he's missed an entire year of baseball. Even if he is able to play winterball this year you'd have to think he'd start in High A next season. Mitchell being ready next year would require the kind of jump that Hudson made last year.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:13 PM) Is Morel really ready to play everyday offensively? No. But he could be by the middle of next year if he keeps this up.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:11 PM) I still think this team has a shot. Jackson has the ability to be a pretty good pitcher and I feel we have a strong defense and strong bullpen. If the bats are hot at the right time this team could win it all. But I like Danks/Floyd/Jackson more than some. And we all know I am Floyds biggest fan. I think Floyd is one of the best starters in all of baseball. This team certainly has a shot, but let's not pretend that "we'll add another big bat at the deadline!" is a decent strategy.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:09 PM) With his arm, Jackson is always tradable. If he's got an ERA above 5.5 next summer and he's getting paid $8.5 million for the full season, no one's going to want him. They'll want him for less than the Tribe got for Westbrook.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:10 PM) The Sox are going to try and get Danks or someone else to sign a deal to keep control of pitchers. Extending Jackson might not be a bad thing. But than again, I tend to like Edwin. If Coop can work a miracle, sure, maybe there's a ridiculous savings bit there because we extend him early. Then again, I think he's a fringe #5 starter right now.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 04:40 PM) So how much in payroll taxes, unemployment taxes, medicare taxes, social security taxes, capital gains taxes did his business generate, if we are including everything? Depends. How much of it was government contracts? That's socialism right, so it should count like a quadruple negative or something like that.
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White Sox make no last minute deals
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:07 PM) next July, Kenny will be trying for that big bat again. That plan worked like a charm this year.