Balta1701

While it’s a 1 year cost, we are also dealing with white Sox ownership here. If they’re saying the payroll limit is $185 million, having that much dead money is an issue.

When you’re not a winning team, you are going to have to pay a premium to get a guy like Bryant. The Orioles might have the best offer for Correa right now, but they haven’t paid the premium required for a rebuilding team. Clearly the Rockies did. The odd part is how Colorado is handling their business. It is definitely odd.

If I’m reading this right, the Dodgers with Freeman are in the highest tier of the luxury tax already, so every dollar they add is taxed at 60%. While they’re rich, that is expensive - Kimbrel’s whole deal would cost them $25.6 million. If you gave them Kimbrel and ate almost his entire contract, so that they’re adding a reliever for $2 million or so, that might well do it. Probably still have to add in a prospect to get equal value, but a reliever without the tax would be valuable to them. But, that’s like $15 million in dead money for the White Sox.

Kris Bryant is also the poster child for a guy who lost money due to service time manipulation. He already won a ring and the Cubs left him dangling in the minors when he was the best player I ever saw down there, solely to save money. He didn’t even get a choice in doing so. I won’t begrudge him taking the biggest offer he could, he already gave up money to win a title. I will say the Rockies owner is clearly an arse, for crying poor two months ago.

26 innings…out of 95 total. Yeah that’s not a compliment.

Remember folks, they also said that the Kelly signing came together because of LaRussa. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the power of the GM.

It’s worth a shot. I don’t think the Dodgers would risk missing out on him having another good year…but the problem is “what do we send back”. The Dodgers wouldn’t take a bad contract back unless the White Sox added serious talent, so how are the White Sox going to have room for him when they’re $17 million under the tax line?

They could try making the playoffs every year for a decade.

They just had their luxury tax bill cut by about $100 million over those 6 years.

I’m counting what, $45 million in new money spent this offseason (including Kimbrel’s option).

I’m really not sure which is worse. That they couldn’t recognize that the 2nd highest paid reliever in baseball wouldn’t have trade value coming off several weak seasons, or that they recognized it but were determined to prove that they weren’t wrong on the trade and were blinded by their own arrogance.

Do you think Burger gets Manea? (Even with Adolfo added)?

Even still, the white Sox can either give out something big league ready (difficult to do this year) or they can give up something rather away…which has some chance of blossoming into something they wished they hadn’t given up.

Well, at least Kelly might have been signed because of someone else.

Basically yes. Can’t easily project things like how many guys hit the 60 day IL or minor league guaranteed contracts.

They test those things repeatedly before the season, and they wouldn’t have started prepping until the CBA was signed last week.

I think yours is Pre-Harrison.

They are $17 million from the tax line (likely a little less when IL stints happen).

The worst part might be that they actually spent the money. $180 was the dream goal at the offseason start and they’re at that.

Except for that Verlander guy.

One of our "insiders" today posted 20 pages back that "The hangup is 4 years".

I know I saw something about their financials, but I can't believe Boston would get to the ALCS and then seemingly get worse now that they are over $20 million under the tax line.

You're 2 minutes late.

Legit wondering - there's a financial reward in the CBA for teams that grow their market, they're able to keep more of the locally generated money that would originally have gone to revenue sharing. I don't know the numbers, but if a local market is sending $100 million to revenue sharing and they're able to keep an extra 20%...they boost their revenues and add in a big bonus.

All this does say is that "position player deals are at the top of the range expected", which is exactly what one should have concluded based on November and based on the new CBA.