Balta1701

IMO if they did bring back Cesar it wouldn't be for a while. Zero reason to sign a guy like him early, wait and see how your offseason evolves, maybe that's a position you wind up forced to spend more money at after you whiff on a RF option or something like that. If someone gobbles him up there will be plenty of other 2b options available in January (or later pending lockout).

I still think there's a nonzero chance that they go with Cesar as a bounceback guy, but not at $6 million.

His buyout is $1 million according to B-R?

As I said, it was tolerable for them.

This organization once publicly blamed a deal not happening on a Tweet. The idea that the same people could have perfect confidence in a trade happening maybe 5 months and a lockout in advance just seems like a fantasy to me.

White Sox are either hurt on the FA market or have to sweeten their offer to clear his salary. The underlying point is that the situation in a hypothetical is very different from the situation after the option is picked up. Once that happens, the White sox’s negotiating position is fundamentally different. The White Sox are the team taking on all the risk at the moment they say yes, no one else is.

I doubt it will actually work this way, but if I were an opposing GM of say the Rays, I’d tell Hahn today “of course we will trade for him”. 2 weeks from now that would become “we still want him but ownership wouldn’t let us add that money without a CBA”, and then in March it would turn into “we just couldn’t anticipate the CBA would be structure like this and that player is no longer a fit for us.”

The Mariners signed a way worse contract for Cano than either of those, Cano was 4-5 years older than either of those. That seems to have worked out in a tolerable way for those Mariners.

It’s Boras, so even though I fully get the logic of accepting it, I wouldn’t guess what they will do.

Yeah, but there’s several parts to that single play. Leury was moved there from 2b for no good reason. The pitcher on the mound was a guy we paid a fortune for so he could strike people out and then he forgot how to do that somehow. The game was only tied at that point because the manager left the starter in too long and went to Crochet on a back to back day for no good reason other than to lose the game. The defensive positioning was bad enough that several key balls had trickled past the infielders to set up previous runs and that situation - fix that and it’s a sizeable lead. An OF would have helped but so could any of those things. There was an OF playing in right who was strong defensively and Tony pulled him because reasons.

With the Phillies Bryce Harper has a .958 OPS, 83 home runs in 3 seasons. Led the NL in OPS in 2021, led in walks in 2020. Hasn’t been hurt, has shown better consistency than we saw in Washington. Those front end results look dynamite. You can’t judge the Harper deal on whether the team made the playoffs and then judge the Wheeler deal on how well he has pitched.

Well First problem remains the righties. You draw a good RHP in the playoffs and you go out first round, again. Obviously a McCutchen doesn’t solve that, which I’ve noted like 4 times now. But your second problem is your bench. If Romy is your 2b, then the only big league bench player in this org right now is Engel, who wasn’t exactly a picture of health last year. You shouldn’t have been surprised when several guys got hurt this year, you better darn well have a plan for what you’re going to do if and when that happens again. That plan is currently not in this organization, and scrap heap guys picked up midseason are only going to get you so far if someone actually pushes us in the division.

No one is trading for Adam Engel, come on. He'll probably be offered an Arb-2 contract, but after last year it's at least not open-and-shut.

The 2021 season should have been a lesson on the importance of outfield depth.

You ignored his > 1.000 OPs against lefties and insisted he “doesn’t hit at all”. If you’re going to be hyperbolic then you can’t get annoyed if people call you out for it.

From his experience last year, I would definitely want to know who else is available to play RF. I'm ok with him in a rotation of guys, but Eloy, Calhoun, Engel, and Robert in the same OF seems to give us a chance of having the end result be people saying "How could we possibly have all 4 of our outfielders injured at once no one could have seen this coming"

Numbers last year are bad and he seems to have tore his hamstring. Seems to have had as many injury setbacks as Engel had, leg was injured the whole year. I've been interested in him for a couple years but have immediate worries from the stat line about him being Eaton.

He would have been 2nd on the 2021 White Sox in home runs.

He's obviously a guy you need to pair with a LH hitting partner, which we don't have, hence why i suggested he's a poor fit for the roster. That said, he is a veteran, does still hit LHP, and last season did show us the importance of OF depth.

Yes, but he didn't change teams. Do you think the White Sox are giving him that kind of money?

Do you think he is getting a deal like that with a QO attached? I would guess almost a zero chance of that. I’m struggling to remember someone signing a deal about that level with a QO attached. Last one I can find was AJ Pollock.

Bold predictions: if Boras’s side rejects the Qualifying Offer, Rodon makes less than $18 million on the season.

Naw, a 13 game difference in the standings is just too much of a difference to make up. The White Sox also pounded Cleveland in Chicago especially, and even faced off against Bieber and Plesac a couple times. A 5 game lead or so and I could believe that.

https://slate.com/culture/2020/01/mets-rape-accusation-spring-training-1991.html