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https://www.si.com/mlb/2021/10/28/atlanta-braves-tomahawk-chop-daily-cover They also hand out free foam Tomahawks in many games, leaving them on or under the seats, you'll see them in the crowd sometimes (not sure yet if theyr'e doing that for this world series but I did see some in the first inning). They pulled them in the 2019 playoffs after they were called out by a Cardinals pitcher who was a member of the Cherokee Nation. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2856679-cardinals-ryan-helsley-cherokee-member-braves-tomahawk-chop-disrespectful

No, don’t kick people out for that. Just stop encouraging it. Put on other cheers and let it die out. If 1/3 of the crowd wants to be racist, I’m happy to judge them until it goes away.

Yes, Greinke currently listed as starter for tonight. Could be Odorizzi or Valdez on short rest tomorrow.

The next 2 games get messier for the Braves. Drew Smyly and Kyle Wright, but both of them threw an inning in game 2. Smyly had an of 4.5 this year, Wright had an ERA in the bigs of 9.5.

The dollar amounts were basically comparable counting taxes.

A bet that there will be no minimum payroll next year is an interesting one.

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2005 game 2 started at 51 degrees F and ended at 45. It was listed in the record books as rainy and misty. It was a fascinating game with an unexpected twist against the Astros in the 9th.

So if I follow this with the Astros, it’s Verlander, Greinke, McCullers, Valdez, Garcia, Urquidy, Odorizzi, with Christian Javier in a Lopez like role? With Verlander out for the year, that would be 7 deep, and Lopez would be 7 deep for the White Sox. Now that I walked through this in actually surprised that the Astros really weren’t using more pitchers than the White Sox, although they did have one extra one injured the whole year.

So this begs the question...what did the White Sox do that is so different from what, for example, Houston, Atlanta, or other playoff teams did, where the White Sox's staff broke so much earlier while other teams were able to make pushes down the stretch? The Dodgers, for another example, seem to have endured to the LCS, but that's with the loss of Bauer/replacement by Scherzer in there, they just really got hurt when Kershaw went out. The Braves staff might be teetering a bit right now without Morton. Why were the White Sox so spent by September 1? This isn't trying to accuse anyone of anything in this case, I genuinely do not have a good answer to this.

yup, and he got criticized for it but it didn't cost anyone their jobs, he just had to apologize and say "oh yeah that was kinda stupid we probably do have gay fans don't we".

That was fast.

Yeah that’s not going to happen. Less revenue overall? Frankly there’s a better chance of the season getting longer than shorter, with additional playoff games added.

After this season? I’ll believe that the Giants can’t do it once someone takes the division away from them.

You mean like the post you replied to where I said you would need a backup you could count on?

I don’t even want to look up his numbers this year right now but MF was 3rd in the 2019 MVP voting and 2021 gets called a career year for him?

Not really. He was regularly injured but he would be penciled in as the post Lockout starter this season if not for the decision to trade him. You’d have to find a backup you could count on, but you wouldn’t be talking about Semien.

Unfortunately, all of the defensive metrics last year say Moncada was middle of the pack average. Not terrible, but not deserving of being in the Gold Glove conversation.

He thinks Kimbrel is movable for a decent return, I think it's going to be surprisingly tough unless there's a minimum salary that a number of teams have to increase payroll to meet. But regardless of which one is right - the one thing they should not be thinking is "I gave up Madrigal and Heuer, I can't have given up those guys and not get something important in return." It wouldn't matter if they gave up Tatis and Semien for the guy, he's either movable or he's not movable now based on his current contract and performance, and what they gave up to get him should not enter into that calculation. If it is, then it's just ego, rather than any sort of baseball decision.

If you think he's movable fine. If you think you want him back because you've identified what's wrong with him, fine. Neither of those are the justification that was just used there - the justification given was the worst possible one. "I'm too good to have made a mistake and I'm going to prove it" is awful thinking and you know it, that's why you didn't try to defend it. And given that it's coming from a person who might well have heard the FO actually have that attitude, it's disconcerting.

I know who is writing this, so just saying again “we insist we didn’t make a mistake and we will throw another $16 million at proving that” would be such awful thinking by the front office it’s hard to put it into words.

Yup, but even with that they still have the Dodgers and Giants in their division, so it won’t be easy even if he does everything possible.

That someone is assuming there’s no minimum payroll in the next CBA and even the owners seem to think it’s coming.

Just so someone says it, the type of accountability required by Chicago’s Hockey Franchise isn’t exactly comparable to a bad trade deadline.