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QUOTE(WCSox @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 01:08 PM) +1 Given Logan's lack of experience and his not-exactly-stellar numbers last season, you keep Neal around until his cost exceeds his performance. But...that also adds in the cost of whatever you could get for Neal on the trade market.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 11:48 AM) Hasn't announced yet though. And with McCain jumping in - officially - so early, it might suck a lot of support away from a Frist run. That & the whole stunning defeat of his party in the Senate...

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 11:30 AM) Doesn't Burrell have a full no-trade clause? And I do NOT want Vizquel back, Rowand maybe, but only because of past history. We can do better than those two. Much better. Yes. And reportedly, he's very loathe to waive that clause, although there's some rumblings he may be interested in going to the Bay Area.

QUOTE(R.Sweeney @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 11:46 AM) Dont see Cashman going for that either .You shouldnt ink Crede just yet til his back situation is has gotten better . We still have from now til the end of the 07 season to see how his back turns out . The sooner you sign Crede, the lower his cost/year.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 09:55 AM) It sounds like Vernon Wells is out there... just sayin. It also sounds like Toronto is looking to add a bat, not subtract one, but who can say. I will say that I enjoy the thought of seeing Hafner try to find a way to double into the gaps with an outfield of Wells, Anderson, Dye.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 09:30 AM) Exactly!!! The AL central is going to be tough next year. I don't think the wild card will come from our division becasue thre will be 4 teams in great competition. The other divisions have to play the Central too.

Something will go down soon involving KW if history is any guide. And I hope to God it doesn't involve CF.

QUOTE(Chet Lemon @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 09:25 AM) trade iguchi & dye to the yankees for cano and melky cabrera, then use the money saved from the trade to acquire a proven bullpen cornerstone and ink crede to a long term deal. By my count, the Yankees already have 3 starting outfielders not including Cabrera (or williams for that matter), and at least 1 DH, if not a couple.

QUOTE(beautox @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 07:23 AM) Agreed, take him away from petco, in the tribes line up and a year under his belt, hes definatly going to be a pain, him and garko. And Choo, and Hafner, and Martinez, and Sizemore...eek.

Honestly, unless he's badly hurt, I still think that the best option as a 2nd Lefty may actaully be Logan. Cotts is nearly to Arbitration, which means his cost will start going up a lot in the next couple years, and he still has significant trade value after his 05 campaign. Logan is also several million dollars cheaper than bringing in a FA like Walker would be, money which I would rather see spent on 1 m ore Righty setup man. Having seen Logan pitch, I still think he has the stuff to make it in the big leagues, he just needs to get his head in the right place and learn how to not be scared/just throw strikes when he faces people. That's something that can be overcome. And happily, he'd only be our #2 option out of the bullpen for lefties, since we still have the guy firing the cannon from the left side. You stick another experienced righty setup man in that bullpen to go along with the 3 flamethrowers, and stick in Haeger and Logan as your last-guys out, and I think you do surprisingly well.

So that's what it looks like when the Giants start to come apart.

Wow. 1 more of those and the Bears will be able to take out a patent on 108 yard returns.

Russ Feingold will not run for the Democratic nomination in 2008, electing to remain a Senator.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 11, 2006 -> 06:08 PM) Yea, 'cause it's only Republicans that are unethical... as always. I'm too lazy to look up the logical fallacy here. "The Republicans have terrible ethics problems which are vastly worse than those of the Democrats = the Democrats have no ethics issues"?

Senator Menendez of NJ is facing a new round of subpoenas in a possible corruption case. Supposedly the prosecutor running this case is actually one of the Bush pioneers, but presumably he wouldn't be a federal prosecutor potentially going after a Senator if he didn't believe there was something there.

Gas prices go down every fall as companies are able to switch to cheaper gas blends with higher vapor pressure, and start to go back up in the winter as things get cold and heating demand goes up. This is the normal yearly cycle the way the market is set up right now. It just so happens that elections are in the fall too, so people jump to conclusions.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 11, 2006 -> 09:44 AM) One way Bush could get himself some positive feedback from the public is if he created the agency by executive order, and then dared Congress to vote it down. Or, pushed it through in the lame duck Congress. Either way, he puts Congress on the spot. You're assuming that Bush would actually be willing to do something that could hurt his own party...had there been an actual ethics process running for the past 4 years, it would have been a disaster for the Republicans.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 11, 2006 -> 07:31 AM) I place almost no value in individual prospects, so get a bunch of them and hope one pans out. There is no guarantee that any of these guys will make the 25 man roster, or once there have any impact. If we are scoring who wins this trade in 2007, I'd say Detroit. Perhaps down the road, if one of these guys pans out, the trade will need to be rethought. But I don't think the Yankees lineup is better without him. These guys didn't play for the Tigers. He's an upgrade for what they had. For that, I like this trade for Detroit. A lot of that is going to depend on the health/growth of their rotation. Detroit does have a lot of options at starting pitcher, which lessens the pain somewhat, but they still gave away one of their best backup plans for this season. Especially if injuries or regression hits any of those guys a bit.

Quite an intelligent move. Reward a guy who helped them get a title, and keep a solid lefty bat in the lineup behind Pujols. But it hurts them a lot of course if he can't stay healthy.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Nov 11, 2006 -> 10:04 AM) I think whoever threw out $120 million as a projection for next year's payroll is pretty spot on. The other side of this token though is that just because the White Sox may have the money to spend, it's not necessarily the best idea to spend it. Right now, baseball is in one of those revenue-surge modes, to the point where people are talking about contracts being given out this offseason that are just about as stupid as some of the ones handed out after 2000 (ARod and Manny). The White Sox only have a couple of holes that can be filled. LF, SS, maybe CF if you can find someone really, really good. But they're also in a position to even be cutting salary in 1 place by dropping at least 1, if not 2 starting pitchers. Drop 1 starter, and the difference between what we have committed and $120 million is something like $30 million dollars. It'll cost some to extend Buehrle, Crede, Iguchi, and Dye, but that still leaves a ton of cash sitting there. And, if everyone out there is looking to cash in by going after one of the couple big name guys, a guy like Soriano or Lee could just hold out until they find a freaking fortune somewhere. While getting a Soriano would land us a hell of a player, it also could land us a hell of a bill, to the point that we might regret it in the future. We may very well be better off saving a little cash this season, extending the people we do have right now, and adding onto our payroll when there's either better, smarter, or cheaper options available a year or two from now (especially since it'd give us another year to evaluate Anderson, Haeger, and McCarthy, and see if we need to spend money to replace any of them).

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 06:31 PM) Good lord Mikey D. Sounds familiar.

QUOTE(FlaCWS @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 06:54 PM) Thank you... there is absolutely no reason to trade for A-Rod. I just can't understand why people don't look beyond A-Rod's stats and see him for what he is - a losing player. Seattle had the best record in the AL the year after he left. Texas became a contender the year after he left. The Yankees have choked in the playoffs every year since he got there (and they were in the World Series the year BEFORE he got there so it's not like he took them to the playoffs to begin with). There are lots of great talents who are just not winning players. A-Rod is one of them. And he is such an unbelievably great talent that you would have to give up a ton (in players and money) just to get him - especially pitching, which the Yankees need and which we absolutely should not give up. Like Jordan4life said, we won the WS in '05 because of pitching, pitching, pitching. Is A-Rod a Hall-of-Famer? Absolutely. Is he worth what we'd have to give up? Absolutely not. ARod could well be a winning player if he was ever teamed with a team with great pitching. Brian Cashman seems to be moving the Yankees in that direction, which scares the hell out of me.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 06:04 PM) I'm with ya Rock. I'm in the middle of contemplating surgery myself after a decade of trying to 'rehab' a herniated disc. Once you really understand the injury, you realize that if it's severe enough, rehab won't do squat..... and I'm not putting my back through the grind that a pro athlete does. I wish him luck though. Well, no matter how much money Boras has to move around, you just have to figure there must be reasonable medical opinion telling him that a real rehab has a good shot of success, or we wouldn't go through this. At this point in Crede's career, if medical folks are telling him that the surgery is a better option in terms of healing and he says no, he'd have to be crazy; it could cost him tens of millions of dollars

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 05:28 PM) Considering what Sheffield cost the Tigers, in a pitching market where even Jeff Suppan may command 7-9 million, anything less than two quality prospects is a travesty. Please lord, have someone overpay for our players. Other teams are doing it!!!!11 At this rate, it looks like the market for our pitchers is just going to be ridiculous. To the point where trading 2 of them actually makes sense. Do you want Jeff Suppan for $8 million or Freddy Garcia for $9 million? Wow.