Balta1701

Fascinating Farmerism...the Yankees have "Tentotwodness" - losing 10-2 to Tampa Bay. First hit given up by Garland...cancel the post game show.

Ok...taking bets...will Garland throw a ball this inning? There it is...first one this game.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 05:19 PM) Indians losing 3-0 to the Red Sox in the 4th inning. But they're going to the World Series still, right?

Konerko strikes out on a sinking fastball

I can't see now, but does it look to anyone else like Konerko has closed up his stance a bit? His legs were in a straight line with the camera last night, while he was more open when he was slumping earlier this year.

The crowd at the Cell is chanting "Go, Go" for Pods...can hear it over the crowd mike.

1-2-3 in the first inning, 7 pitches, 0 balls for Garland. Sox coming to bat. Man, both this place and the chat room are dead today

And the game begins...3 straight strikes, groundout on pitch 3 to Konerko. Good work Jon, Keep the ball on the ground. Make us all happy, and tie your win total for the last 3 years.

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 05:03 PM) Well, maybe he'll be able to find his change in the pen. He has to be able to throw his offspeed pitches more often if he's going to succeed. It worked for Buehrle.

QUOTE(ARow33 @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 05:03 PM) lOOKS LIE KW IS LOOKING TO DEAL... HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE ZITO IN BLACK SOON. Please God no...

QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 05:02 PM) He didn't get much of a chance to earn that spot in the rotation. He's had 3 starts. That's more than we gave some people last year.

Kenny Williams has a habit of making deals to improve the major league ballclub, and he's done so using minor leaguers. Have you thought at all about the possibility that you'll be traded? Any idea how you'd react if you were moved? (P.s. I hope you won't be!) Brian, Pasadena CA

When's the last time I mentionned how glad I was we didn't have to face Sweeney?

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 04:29 PM) Because we want to win a World Series. This year. BMac isn't ready. The only thing that bothers me about Clemens is that he has a clause in his contract that he doesn't have to travel with the team. I don't like that, and I don't know what that would do to the other pitchers on the staff. Personally I'm not a fan of the extra $3 he gets if he's traded. If we picked him up he'd instantly be the highest paid player on our team, and he'd only be here half a season. I just know that would come back to bite us in the Free Agent market next year. Reinsdorf would want to make up his money.

QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 04:32 PM) Because they all will be pitching in more games. If you did that for a whole season it would mean 40 starts each. Exactly my point. The last thing we want is for Garcia or Contreras to hit a wall come September or October. Remember, if we go far into the playoffs, they'll probably push 40 starts anyway...there's no good reason to have them go 45. Ozzie plays backups in 1 game out of every series anyway. BMAC won't do us nearly as much harm if he loses a few games as having Garcia or Contreras go down before the playoffs would.

QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 03:59 PM) Dye must play real deep - which is usually a sign of a not so great outfielder - because he is always charging balls that drop in. Last night for one, and the other night on a ball Iguchi looked bad on that was up there a long time. I'm pretty unimpressed by Dye's fielding. Oh, and he'll miss the cutoff man just about every time. Like his bat tho. Dye came to us advertised as being much better on defense than he actually has been. It's been very disappointing. He's at least improved some as the season went on, but I have been less than impressed. ArRow had some words a few weeks back about how having Dye there was helping him because he didn't need to cover as much ground. If that's true I haven't seen it, but maybe he's doing more out there than I know about.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 04:08 PM) Speed doesn't = batting average. Speed = 70 stolen bases. Speed does = Batting average if you hit the ball on the ground. If you do that, you'll simply outrun enough ground balls to keep your average up. If you're hitting the ball in the air every time, then Speed isn't much value.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 03:53 PM) let's not forget Dye and Crede Exactly my point. (should that have been in green?)

That'll be one enjoyable $30 to spend.

The scary part is...this leaves us with 1 backup shortstop...Willie Harris. Hopefully it won't come to that again.

QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) If they did, I missed it. The one guy said SD would beat out STL in the playoffs cause the Padres won 3 of 4 this season. Something tells me that if S.D. had gone to Stl last week, those numbers would have been reversed. At some level, it's all about streaks.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 03:17 PM) Obviously no one listened to Joe Morgan because I watched the replay yesterday and he was giving them mad love. People are overreacting big time. They've been giving fair coverage to the White Sox. And the White Sox didn't lose the game in which Hermy was up and Brantley said he should've been put in IIRC. And also, many people on here felt the same about Ozzie putting Hermy in as Brantley did. Some fans try to reach so much. Good point...Joe was even saying that with our pitching staff, he didn't expect us to hit a major slump all year, and without that it'd be near impossible for anyone to catch us.

What's your source on this? Did anyone else see/hear it if it was TV or Radio? Link? Any idea how bad it is? DETAILS PLEASE!!!

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 03:42 PM) boo! Personally, I think he's right to apologize for using the Nazis as a reference. The fact is that anyone who brings up the Nazis is doing so not because of that particular part of the Nazi behavior, but because of the war and the Holocaust. That is the only reason to bring up the Nazis in any political discussion today; to try to link the behavior of your opponent to the Holocaust because you believe that the Holocaust is so evil, any remote connection to it will immediately discredit your opponent. It's simply wrong, and it does in fact trivialize the Holocaust. If our President erects gas chambers at Gitmo and starts killing people without due process, then I'll start making that comparison myself. But otherwise, it's just not a good method of arguing. Personally, if I were to use a metaphor like Durbin, my choice would have been the Hanoi Hilton from the Vietnam conflict. In that mess, our soldiers were tortured without any due process or any protections from Geneva, exactly as we've done at Gitmo. I think that reference is a lot closer than the Nazi one anyway.

QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 03:40 PM) On Around the Horn today, Woody Page picked Cleveland to go to the World Series. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead Man...that's one crazy bandwagon he's got himself on...especially since their hope of hopes, Sabbathia...was absolutely thrashed yesterday.