Balta1701

I'd do that too. My worry is that we've signed guys from that $10-$20 million/season for a veteran range where league-wide the bust rate has been something like 75% and the rate for the White Sox has been darn near 100%. I'm trying to turn off the panic button in my brain that says the same thing is going to happen to all 3 of the White Sox's big signings but it'll take actually seeing 160 innings and a 4.20 ERA for me to believe we can sign someone who doesn't immediately have their shoulder go John Danks on us.

If he's kinda average and throws 175 innings for this team, that's good enough for now. "Kinda average" is a lot better than pretty much any moderately expensive FA signing has been for this franchise over the last decade.

Might not see him slugging .390 since he only slugged .414 in the minors last year including half a season with the juiced ball at Charlotte, but i guess that number depends a lot on what the MLB ball is like next year.

No it really isn't for him. He takes a good number of walks - both in college and last year you've got a guy who walked in over 8% of his plate appearances - that would have been higher than anyone in the White Sox's lineup last year other than Alonso. The trick with Madrigal is that when he swings, he puts the ball in play. If pitchers didn't pitch to him, he was happy to take the walk, but you just couldn't put him away with a strikeout. If Madrigal is going to have a low OBP, then either he's been overwhelmed and overpowered by big league pitching (which seems unlikely), or he's got a very low batting average because of weak contact - which remains possible particularly with better defenders in the bigs, although the second half of last year argues against that. I'd say there's a good chance his OBP sits something like 50 points above his batting average, wherever that number winds up,

How many pitchers in the last decade have missed 3 months of a season for reasons other than injury?

No reason why we couldn't have signed him to a deal worth $11.

Oh that's over 2 years? my bad, I didn't catch the "2022" part buried in there, I thought that was $16 million over 1.

I complied this yesterday for another reason, but by "Average WAR amongst the teams in the division" the NL and AL East weren't the best last year, the NL and AL West were the 2 best divisions. The Easts are dragged down by the 2-3 rebuilding teams at the bottom.

Yeesh, the Halos should just have kept and traded him.

Have they done a formal introduction to the guy yet? Usually that's when full contract details get published. I'd imagine that stuff like that is shut down until the holiday ends so that people actually see the press conference article.

The Dodgers, the A's say hi. I'd include the Astros but someone keeps banging on a trashcan every time I type their name.

One extra benefit/something Robert's side could use to extract a couple more million here - the White Sox might genuinely be motivated to get this done by not wanting to lose games in April while he's stuck in AAA for service time issues.

An extension would do the same thing for Robert. The trade would be similar to that of Eloy - Robert would effectively give up 1 year of free agency and in exchange he'd guarantee himself $40+ million.

Still don't like the defense.

Read the line immediately above the one you replied to. If Moncada has another comparable year to last year then yes, $10 million+ in Arb1. That's the going rate set by Bryant. If Moncada has a nightmarish season of injuries and bad performance, he'll still get $5 million or so in arbitration and the White Sox will still offer again in 2022 even if he has a terrible 2021. So at the very least he has $10 million+ coming, even if his career falls completely apart.

I mean that even if Moncada had something terrible happen to him this season the White Sox are still going to offer him arbitration the next 2 years and that would still pile up $10 million more for him.

Jordan Luplow, Oscar Mercado, Tyler Naquin, Franmil Reyes, and now DeShields out there is an acceptable OF with 3-4 average players and solid depth. Might not win you the title on its own, but everyone's young and if you have stars elsewhere (P, 3b, SS) you can manage with average OF performance.

I find it hard to imagine any scenario where Moncada doesn't make at least $10 million in arbitration.

Oh God the Twins are going to sign Jay and Alonso and get like 5 WAR from the pair of them aren’t they....

So per an ESPN article apparently the Florida Aball league could try it this year with a goal of moving it to AAA in 2021.

So are they gonna do an all beard section at the rate or what? Other ideas? Razor sponsorship?

They’re playing the game. Note how they had nothing on this signing beforehand; they are just going for eyeballs and clicks.

IMO - it got even harder this year now that we're back to a normal free agency for top flight players. There have been 3 major contracts to 3b in the past year, between $250-$300 million. If you're not talking about something close to $250 million I have no idea why Moncada would listen, and that's with him still being pre-arb right now.

There are so many things wrong with this I can't count them...but f***, let's go with this one. In Eloy Jimenez's contract, 2025 and 2026 are option years. If we want to be that cheap, those years don't need to be paid.

Dafuq?