Balta1701

So Morant is all but guaranteed #2?

Cleveland is not going to extend either of those guys nor should they. Their fans will be annoyed. Both of those are true and acceptable.

If you counted domed stadiums there would be enough, but the southern teams don't want that. They know that their home games are better attended in May-August also, they don't want to be stuck with extra games in April just to bail out Chicago.

Odds of 1-4 and 5-8 are roughly equal. Highest % odds is for #6. Can't be lower than 8.

The trick with a team like the Cubs is that you have to have something to offer that makes them better right now if they're going to give up an asset like this. They don't want a recovery piece who requires big league playing time, they want a minor big league piece. Fulmer makes no sense because he's the exact same problem. Giolito has the exact same problem. Neither of these give the Cubs anything of use right now. So what current assets do the White Sox have? Rodon? That seems like too much to give up. Aside from that...the bullpen might start looking intriguing. Colome for Happ...I dunno, but maybe. You know what could really work? Let either Herrera or Jones start off the season healthy and strong, and you have a match.

Ironically, when you said the Astros spent 6 years tanking, you just said they were tanking during seasons that they did exactly what the 2015 and 2016 white sox did. In 2009 and 2010 they were adding players, including Brett Myers, they had top 10 and top 15 payrolls, they held onto veterans like Carlos Lee and Lance Berkman that they could have traded. They followed that up with 3 seasons at the absolute bottom, but if you are counting 2009 and 2010 as part of their rebuild, then the White Sox in 2019 are in year 7 of rebuilding by the same standard.

The Dodgers are simply not this stupid.

And I'm convinced you must be Rick Hahn to be so emphatically insistent that the only way this could possibly go down is one where Rick Hahn is totally doing everything right and the Dodgers must just be fools who had no idea of the value of their own player until twitter happened.

And you're suggesting that the Indians called and said "We'll put a better offer on the table but only in July" and the Dodgers said "hmmm this makes sense ok".

I said the White Sox are unprofessional and leaked it despite the Dodgers insisting it needed to stay quiet to allow them to work on a Realmuto deal several times as a possible option, that makes a helluva lot more sense than the Dodgers deciding to pull the deal because Twitter made them realize it was bad, but only the latter one has been put back to me.

Really, the Dodgers think he might have a much bigger market come June and July and yeah that makes sense for a competitive team, to give up an asset to one of their competing teams in the middle of the season? This is nonsense. The Dodgers are not this dumb.

Nothing that makes the White Sox look bad can possibly be right. Rick Hahn was conducting business correctly in every way. The Dodgers had to leak the deal to WhiteSoxDave and others, and when they did that the Dodgers increased their ask vindictively because that totally makes sense, and that just left Rick Hahn nothing he could do.

Why is the leak dangerous in this case though? The leak is only dangerous if it causes another competitive bid to appear, or if the Dodgers decide to be punitive based on some belief that the White Sox did behave appropriately. We have a good piece of evidence that better bids did not appear...because the player in the end was not traded at all, and no one is willing to take on the idea that the White Sox organization is leaking like a sieve these days and the other team is punishing them for that unprofessional behavior. So somehow the way to let little Ricky off the hook in this case is the idea that he had hypnotized the Dodgers into a bad deal and seeing it reported on Twitter broke the spell.

No but if the salesman got a better offer for the car from another buyer, he doesn't decide not to sell the car.

Then why on Earth did the Dodgers not complete one of the other deals for this player? You've just given me the "I was going to sell my car for $3000, but because I got an offer of $4000 I decided not to sell the car" nonsense.

Did he just say "impacted one" or did he say more specifically that the team came back with a higher ask in a trade negotiation? Because "leaks impacting one deal" could be consistent with them thinking they had Machado for a bargain and the Padres coming in once they realized how weak the Machado offers were.

Is "The Dodgers are normally idiots but 'came to their senses when it leaked out on twitter'" any more serious?

The one situation I could understand I guess is the Dodgers saying "We need 24 hours to talk to the Marlins about Realmuto and we need you to keep this quiet" and the White Sox leaked it anyway, that would deservedly piss off the Dodgers to the point of a punitive response to the White Sox's unprofessional behavior.

Then what right does little Ricky have to be pissed if he was trying to rip another team off and they got wise to his act?

This would be a pretty sad temper tantrum by the Dodgers org. If they thought they had a fair offer on the table and pulled it back because the White Sox were unprofessional, it wouldn't speak highly of either of them.

Then it wasn't stopped by the deal leaking, it was stopped by it being a bad deal. "I was going to sell my car for $3000, but then I told a couple people and then this other offer came along for $4000, so I just decided to keep driving it. But if only no one had been told about the $3000 offer I'd have taken it". - the Dodgers?

Then why didn't the Dodgers accept one of those offers??

Which is why he was traded to one of those teams making a better offer?

If you could get Keuchel for 4/$40, how would you feel about that?

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