Balta1701

A lot of the "insiders" constantly said that the White Sox had budgets for both. What we didn't understand is that really meant they thought they could budget $175 million for Machado and $200 million for Harper, and the organization believed those were fair offers.

If the organization wanted to tweet an introduction to Rick Hahn for spring training and introduce the front office staff before each game so that the last few fans present can boo, then I'm totally ok with letting the players have it easy. Without that...they need to hear it. They need to feel it. If it lets up, even because people have just stopped caring, they will read that as accepting of their failures.

Does Charlotte actually need more OFs? Eloy/Delmonico, Cordell, Tilson, Guyer?

They don't introduce the general manager before every game. They introduce the players. If you're cheering for the players, if you buy tickets and pay the chairman for the parking lots, you are telling the White Sox that everything is ok and you're ok with how this went. If you already bought tickets...boo. Make them feel it. Management won't hear it otherwise.

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Honestly, I want the negativity to infect this organization, to the core. I want it to be a virus this entire season. I want the players to hear it, I want the coaches to hear it. I want visiting players to hear it. Assuming they don't sign Harper, I want Rick Renteria commenting in June about how he's never heard fans react to their players like this in all his years in baseball. I want the players to be commenting in July about how bad they feel coming in to work every day. The only way that they will be forced to fix the problem is if it becomes so toxic that everyone realizes what they did. Otherwise they will just keep cruising along. Rick Hahn will keep pocketing his 7 figures, Reinsdorf will see $50 million in profits this year, and they'll just roll with it.

Honestly, I hope the anger doesn't subside. I hope that the last dregs of the fanbase keep this up all year. Look I know it's not fair to the players but they're extremely well paid to put up with this. It's not their fault, but if someone already bought their season ticket package they have already committed money to support the clowns in the front office. I mean, don't throw things from the bleachers, but if booing every single player all year is the response you want, at least you've gotten something from your money.

I know the single game sales will drop some, but they probably had a decent offseason in season ticket sales. Remember how many times they talked about how they were going to add Manny Machado without saying his name? That probably generated interest and boosted ticket package sales a bit. Some people probably even jumped at single game tickets for the opener and for a few other games 10 days ago when they went on sale for the same reason.

Because the front office fully 100% believed that having them here for 1 year would help Machado agree to a $50 million discount. No San Diego would not take Alonso off our hands as they have a highly paid first baseman in Hosmer and no ability to use the DH spot in the NL.

It was a lot more than that, especially in his first year. There were some major physical issues with him, maybe some emotional ones, and that had to be part of why his numbers were never the same again. You don't put up one of the worst offensive seasons in MLB history because relievers threw a little harder than the year before.

I thought that Eddie Einhorn's part was the largest share, am I wrong?

At least there's nothing else for a rich person to do in Las Vegas.

Do we, um, bug Steve? He has, um, a weird history with that.

The fun is going to be if he makes it through ST, you clear a 40 man roster spot for him, then the issue flares up in April.

Tom Seaver

We have spent $45 million in "next to nothing" pay this offseason and we missed on the player that mattered by $50 million.

At the very least, this is an excellent reason to give the guy more time, because that type of behavior suggests an issue with consistency and mechanics. So, if you have a losing team, you throw him out there, let him put up an ERA of 5 if that's how it goes, and maybe you have a 1 in 20 shot of him improving his consistency and breaking out as an actual contributor. Or you could just waste $4 million on a veteran who was equally bad last year and hope that by the time he's 37 he develops into a guy who can help your rotation? But anyway, yay keep it up guys this is the roster we need!

There's only one name bigger than that on the team, and frankly I think he could do better than slave labor prostitutes. Edit: Their coach would be a bigger name though.

I didn't want to go there.

Like who is left that is a bigger name than a billionaire with 7 super bowl trophies? A Senator?

$4.3 million for that? Deserves a laugh.

LOL you're 100% right about the disagreeing that's laughable.

I will admit, this is not how I saw today going.

Normally I'd be annoyed because I'd expect this guy to get innings even if he's not pitching well enough to deserve them and I think that Covey/the other young guys have an outside chance of developing into something more valuable than what you'd get for a worn out Ervin Santana at the deadline and should be given every opportunity to see if they can turn into something... But you know what? I really don't care. Hell go sign CarGo. Why not.

Hell, if these competing teams are dumb enough to let him go for a bargain, why not? Worst case scenario they're a lot better this year and in a year or two they trade Harper when someone is ready to take over. Why not be the team that sets the floor at a reasonable value?