Balta1701

And literally none of them are expected to contribute directly to a competitive white Sox team.

You mean right now? Yes I remember right now.

I have been saying Cease wasn't likely to move the whole offseason, he's likely to wait until the trade deadline, for the following reasons. 1. Dylan Cease really did have a worse season last year than 2022. Some of the stats show this better than others, but it is absolutely true, his performance notably declined last year. Teams will recognize this and be uncertain what version of Cease they will get. 2. The White Sox are likely to ask for a trade on him based on his 2022, minimizing his 2023. Many teams will correctly look at this skeptically until they know which Cease they are getting - if Baltimore gave up one of their top 5 prospects and they get 2023 Cease, they have seriously hurt themselves. 3. There are substantially more options for teams right now. You have seen this play out over the offseason - the Braves are gambling on Sale being healthy, the Dodgers just signed James Paxton, teams aren't even willing to gamble a contract on a 2x Cy Young winner because he's been so inconsistent. Teams are able to convince themselves that they are better off holding prospects and trying gambles right now than paying a high prospect cost. 4. Teams are not feeling pressure of playoff hunts right now. The Orioles know they could use pitching, but they aren't desperate for it. There are too many things that could happen - if Rutschman were to get hurt early in the season it might not matter if they have pitching, if some pitcher steps up they might have other needs, even for everyone's favorite team there's lots of ways this can go that trading a high talent price for a pitcher right now could backfire on them even if the pitcher is strong. Unless they are getting a guy at a solid discount, teams do not have pressure on them to make moves right now, and the White Sox don't want to offer a guy at a big discount just to move him. 5. Dylan Cease has a strong record of health. He has the most starts in the big leagues over the last 3 seasons. While there is risk in holding him that he will get hurt, if you're going to gamble on anyone it's a guy who has been consistently healthy. If the White Sox can have Dylan Cease recover most of his 2022 form, then that removes a lot of the questions in #s 1 and 2 above by the time the trade deadline comes around. Overall, you're asking teams to pay a high price for a guy who didn't justify that price last year, in a situation where both the opposing teams and the White Sox can well justify waiting to see how things develop. That's a situation that leaves him unlikely to move.

The question is actually answered by the fact that they haven't moved him yet - wait until he forces you to move him. Trea Turner was pretty weak defensively last year, but his bat is strong enough that he still plays as a very strong SS. If Colson's bat plays and he's a slightly below average SS, you keep him there and just deal with it, score more runs to make up for plays that aren't made. If you bring him up in '24-25 and he's just awful at SS, then you ask why no coach said to move him while in the minors, but you move him then. If Ramos is still on a path to the big leagues, maybe you work him in at DH, maybe you shift his position, maybe you're in a good enough position to consider a trade, maybe Colson gets hurt and you're happy you have the depth.

If a guy’s ceiling is “Kris Bryant in his first 6 years” and you think that’s a legit possibility barring injury, you’d be out of your mind to trade that for a pitcher with 2 years of control.

Well, first of all somehow Bryant and Soto have almost exactly the same fWAR in their first 6 seasons, which is rather neat, that’s how I missed that. Now that I have this right - why isn’t player B the number 2 overall prospect in baseball?

If Fields has enough value… Fields to Pittsburgh for their first. Pitt’s pick and the number 9 for MHJ.

There’s a decent chance the Patriots say no to that - remember last year it cost the Texans two firsts to move up from 11 (I think) to 3. But it is an interesting concept if written as a fair-ish deal.

Thats Soto. Hes comparing the scouting numbers to a unicorn hall of Famer who was an MVP candidate at 19. You just don’t do that. If the guy comes up and immediately hits like a hall of Famer he will be fine in the OF, I agree. Also the Orioles should clearly hold onto a guy being compared to a sure fire hall of famer.

Yeah because this is a fair comparison.

That's what I was thinking too, the Bears would be giving up a lot in depth, but if the Pats were up for doing this, they get a QB candidate and some extra picks at the same time. I kinda feel like Belichick would do that deal since it is stockpiling extra picks, no idea if his replacements will. Make it a fair deal on paper and it kinda makes sense for both teams, if the Pats were willing.

Let's drop the homerism out of it and think about the idea. The Bears trade #9, #75, Fields, and a 2025 2nd for MHJ. This is probably under-valuing Fields and the future pick, or you're saying that MHJ has a huge value. Also I gave up a 2nd rounder because it's Poles just gives up 2nd rounders, a third makes it a little less biased but it's gotta be a 2nd. Would y'all do that?

Has anything happened in the last 5 years that would affect the demand for office space and funds available to build more?

Correctly would be in a way where they become good investments for the taxpayers.

One thing I find ironic is that two stadium projects in the 90s-early 00s were completely screwed up by the City, costing them hundreds of millions, and now they're sitting on proposal concepts for two amazing parks that fully fix every issue with the previous ones - other than the giant spaceship on the lake that they built. They suddenly have a way to do this correctly!

I would fully expect some sort of "Schtick he does that winds up annoying a lot of people but is surprisingly effective because you talk about it".

The White Sox successfully renovating this site and having the real estate rights to the rest of the property, primed for development, would be worth an additional hundreds of millions of dollars on a sale.

I have no current opinions on him so stuff I’m hoping to see: An understanding of modern baseball. Do comment on them being patient. Do not credit them for ground balls the other way if they take you out of an inning. Do question bunting. Don’t tell me it’s all about TWTW. Show some advanced stats and explain them in appropriate context. Editorial independence: a willingness to say that a player or the organization has made mistakes when they happen. A general sense of passion, when things are going well or poorly. Those were, for the most part, things I liked about Benetti.

This same PR department last year didn't have anyone who said "Hey, Maybe allowing Mr. Clevinger to use 'Gold digger' as his game opening music isn't the best look for our team."

and 7 miles in New York City is different than 7 miles in Kansas City. And frankly, 17 miles is different in Dallas too, because Fort Worth exists.

If we get to the point where Manfred is coming to town because they are demanding so much from the city, yeah enjoy Nashville. There is an obvious path here where each side gets pinched a little but where there is so much money in the asset and development rights for the extra land that JR would be flat out stupid not to take advantage of it. This sets the family up to take in billions while also making the city better, and if they sell the team at some point they sell a ready-for-development or already-developed land. If he needs to feel like he took the state to the cleaners in the process, then he can lose out on the money he would make for developing the rest of the land. It would be complaining about $300 million and losing $2 billion over the next couple decades.

If they have a legit deal and it works for the taxpayers and owners I don't see why this is a problem. They have a working ballpark! Adding an extra year or two during construction seems like zero issue? Way better than a team looking for a home. Way better than a business going bankrupt if construction is delayed.

If that actually is true, then I would also wish all the pain on them while they're moving.

This is a MAJOR project, fwiw. It will probably cost less than the full 78 site, but you're basically talking about spending so much money that you might as well build a new ballpark. The outfield isn't built to support the weight of an entire second story on top of it, so you are completely rebuilding the support for the outfield while also stripping off and redesigning the infield - while also considering how this will change factors like wind, sunlight into the luxury boxes, etc. It would be difficult to strip off most of the upper deck while still preserving the luxury boxes, and that would look straight up odd in addition to being a high cost. If you're going to spend hundreds of millions to renovate a park into something monstrous at a bad site, just pass on the idea and spend more to build something FAR BETTER at a good site. For example, if your options are a beautiful domed football stadium in the suburbs or building a monstrosity on the lakeshore that looks like you landed a spaceship inside a once historic building that everyone hates because it is awful and hard to get to, do not build the stupid space ship. It will be a massive waste of money, it will look ridiculous, and in 20 years you'll be tired of it and wanting the actual professional building in the suburbs. This may or may not be relevant to any other team.