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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 11:07 AM) I really dont' get it. I watch Santiago and he has good stuff. He should be very good and he is the one guy that I'm extremely confused as to how Robin has handled him. He causes bad innings. Just like last night, out, out, beanball, double, single 2 runs. It is always with 2 outs, he just loses it. Im not confused as to how Robin uses him anymore because he has put Santiago into every conceivable relief situation and the result is almost always the same. If he needs to start, so be it, but he has been used as closer, setup, LOOGY, and long relief and in each instance he inevitably gives up two runs.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 10:48 AM) In wtf news, the Royals signed Jason Kendall, per MLB Trade Rumors. The jawline returns. scrappy singles everywhere

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 10:38 AM) Whatever the reason, many posters on Soxtalk were wrong about Youkilis. RBI's really? By the same token Viciedo will not score the number of runs Pierre will. Pierre's arm is a problem, no doubt, but he can go from 1st to third or score from first on a double easier than Viciedo. Not to mention steal a base. His baserunning advantage over Viciedo makes up for his arm, probably more than makes up really. that'10 times every 100 AB's, yes I think that makes a difference when you are in a tight race. Not only that, but you'd have Viciedo available off the bench late in the game as a lefty masher. And if you pinch run for Dunn or Konerko and their spot in the order comes up again you have Viciedo available as a power threat. One of the things about getting another OBP guy in the lineup is it could allow for Youkillis to move to 3 spot which means you won't have to take your 3 hitter out for a pinch-runner. Except viciedo has scored the same amount of runs out of the 7 spot than Pierre has scored leading off. And their amount of at bats are similar despite Pierre platooning. Really, Pierre isn't happening no matter how much you argue with all of us, and it hasnt been proven why a declining player is so much more valuable than a young power hitter. Just leave it at you want viciedo as a trade chip, the Pierre talk is really not proving anything

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 10:03 AM) As was pointed on yesterday many posters on here didn't want Youkilis. Being contrary to Soxtalk opinion probably means you're right. The reason was because Youkilis was trending badly away from his normal stats and people thought he was done. He isnt. Pierre is way exceeding his normal stats, but will never provide the power and RBIs that Viciedo will provide. And even though Viciedo isnt exactly brilliant in the outfield, he hasnt been really bad either, and his arm has saved more than a few runs. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 10:05 AM) Do Viciedo's outs count less because he IS ONLY 23!!!! Pierre makes more outs, do his outs count less because he gets on base 1 more time out of 10 than Viciedo? Will that 1 out of 10 actually be worth it in a platoon situation? Very doubtful

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 09:52 AM) Unlike this Red Sox series, we have a clear advantage (on paper) in two of the match-ups at least. Well, maybe not, who knows what to make of the Sunday game. With a rookie who just got battered, pitching in the rubber game of the biggest series of the year for both teams, I'd give the advantage to the veteran, but I would guess the Las Vegas oddsmakers wouldn't have a clue either other than to look at DET being on fire and the fact that they're at home. Hmmm, Detroit is 4-2 out of the break, Sox are 3-3 Last 10, Sox are 6-4, Detroit is 7-3. So, how exactly is Detroit on fire?

Clip from a Marvel short "Item 47" So you know whats going on, these two find a Chitauri weapon in the aftermath of the Avengers, and decide to go on a little crime spree with it, until S.H.I.E.L.D. shows up. The full short will be on the Avengers DVD

Well yea, Pierre comes cheaply because he sucks

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 12, 2012 -> 01:21 PM) Nothing worse than being issued a replacement credit card and having to change the number on ALL of your Auto-pay accounts. #firstworldproblems Lmao, as a person who works in credit card fraud and hears people b**** about this every day when I inform them to update their # with auto debit merchants, this makes me laugh

6:20 first pitch

“@scottmerkin: The sun is out, the grounds crew is removing the tarp and the Cheers theme song is playing at Fenway #lifeisgood”

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) So you are giving Rios a free pass for his s***tiness before this season and tossing your wrath to Ozzie instead? Before this is over, Ozzie is going to get blamed for this year's attendance woes. Wherever did I say that? I can admit that last year Rios sucked, and Ozzie was a part of the problem. you can do no such thing, all you can do is repeat "Ozzie is rich. Ozzie won a world series. Cooper stabbed him in the back" I NEVER gave Rios a free pass. But looking at the player we are seeing now compared to what we saw the past few years, it is like seeing a completely different person. Please tell me, what changed between now and then, greg?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 04:33 PM) I think it's ridiculous. Of course you do. I wouldnt expect anything else.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 04:30 PM) I'm saying it must be nice to be as gawdawful as Rios had been and be able to have people blame it on the manager. My god. It's ALL on Rios. He's the guy performing. What a convenient excuse for loafing and sucking. That Rios gets a pass on this amuses me. Blame it on Ozzie. Hilarious. Man I wish people could take years off at work in real life like Rios did ... and have those people keep their jobs cause of their bad upper management team. What a joke. Hey, now you are seeing it isnt just these messageboard creatures that are pointing it out now. It is actually people that follow the game for a living. Pretty odd how that works, eh? And conversely, pretty odd how the Marlins added all of these high paid athletes and they ARENT PERFORMING UP TO EXPECTATIONS either. Weird.

The hourly weather forecast actually looks like they will get the game in uninterrupted, but those forecasts have been really wrong before

QUOTE (Boogua @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 04:06 PM) They added Parrish who blew up after he came to the Celtics (probably nothing to do with Bird I'm sure). McHale was a rookie who averaged 10 points per game. He averaged 8.5 PPG in the playoffs. Nobody else was really added. They won the NBA championship. I honestly don't even like the stance that I'm forced to take. I agree that Lebron wasn't provided with that much help. I just think it's a bit exaggerated. Mo Williams wasn't a terrible player and averaged 17 PPG before joining the Cavs. Jamison averaged around 20 PPG before going to the Cavs. Varajao was good defensively. Anthony Parker was a good shooter. I don't think Pippen would have been the same player he became without Jordan. I don't think Parrish would have had the same career without Bird. I don't know who you could say that about with Lebron. He's just a ball dominant player that improves his teammates (although a great amount) by driving and dishing. It just seems like he doesn't hold his teammates accountable like Bird and Jordan. And Lebron wasn't forced to leave Cleveland. Look at Olajuwan's Rockets. He went through like a 5+ year stretch where his second best player was Otis Thorpe. That didn't prevent him from ultimately winning two championships. No, but MJ taking his little gambling hiatus definitely helped Olajuwan win those titles. If MJ was still in the league, those titles wouldnt have left Chicago.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 04:19 PM) Alex Rios should not be praised for finally earning his money. Give me a break. It's on him for being a piece of crap last year and the other years he sucked. Kudos to him for this year, though. Must be nice to earn the kind of money Rios earns. Critics can say a new manager brought it out of him. That pisses me off. It's ALL ON THE MILLIONAIRE RIOS, not his f***ing coaches. Right greg, at no time ever in the history of working under someone has the way a manager treated someone affected their performance.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 01:11 PM) We should have won it last year, if it wasn't for Kyle Williams. Well if we can be revisionist, the Bears would have won it if Cutler didnt break his thumb. See how that works? It happened, Williams fumbled.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 12:54 PM) You're a f***ing joke if you're honestly suggesting Pierre over Viciedo in any capacity. Pierre put up .621 and .642 OPSs against RHP the last two years. Unless you think he's suddenly found the fountain of youth, he's going to regress significantly in the 2nd half. On the other hand, Viciedo has a decent chance to improve in the 2nd half. There is no debate here. Had you chosen a respectable player for your platoon idea, people would have been more willing to listen, but most would have ultimately disagreed. However, you're clearly trolling and went with the idea that would cause the most anger on this board. Stop couching insults. Now.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 12:44 PM) I know, but the wording seemed harsh. I didn't want Quentin to leave, but since it seemed we didn't have any chance at the division this year, I was fine with trimming some fat for someone young. Seemed hostile towards Quentin, and that confused me. I was tired of the injuries. It was too much

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 11:01 AM) I hope we make trades for Liriano, Putz and Oliver I think KW would be considered a master thief if all of this happened

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 10:30 AM) What's the scouting report on Pedro? Scouting report on Pedro

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 08:18 AM) Ten years = fully vested. Player and his children and grandchildren should be set for life. Four years to qualify, I believe. unless you are Lenny Dykstra

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 08:04 AM) There is the problem. You can't take those things out. They happened. His ego also ruined years worth of players and acquisitions that could have added to that trophy case. But it was more important for Ozzie to be right, and to be the center of attention, than to get the best out of guys like Nick Swisher, Javy Vazquez, Alex Rios, and Adam Dunn. It was more important for his kid to get a lot of money and a high draft position than what was going on in the field. The Sox even hired one of his kids to scout, just to shut him up, and instead he blasts the organization. You want a villain, you are listening to him butcher the English language. We could have had way more than just 2005 if Ozzie could STFU every once in a while, and put himself second, instead of first. All Ozzie is, is a realty show whore anymore. At least when he played baseball and first started managing, he seemed to care somewhat about the game. Now he is trying to bully 19 year olds to get a few more seconds on SportsCenter. Not only was it time for Ozzie to leave, the longer he is gone, the more I am convinced he f***ed us out of at least division titles, and maybe more, over his last few years. You can hate on Kenny and Coop, but they are still here, and guess what, the Sox are winning with half of the talent they had last year. but he is rich

Remember when Jacob Turner was untouchable?