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QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 11:35 AM) Why? He's an nba veteran and at least is a proven commodity. Another back up PG in case one of ours gets hurt wouldn't be so bad. Proven at what? Being a turnstile? Im sure Thibs will love an undersized no defense PG

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 11:22 AM) I hope its Luke Ridnour... he's not great but he's way better than Wayne Ellington or Malcolm Lee... God i hope you are wrong

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 11:25 AM) Yes, BUT... If JR isn't willing to take on additional salary, then it severely hamstrings our ability to make a deal for an impact pitcher. Mitchell just doesn't quite make it right now as the centerpiece of any type of trade. Same with Castro. Intriguing, sure, but you don't trade a Hamels or Greinke for huge question marks. Even those "sure thing" guys like Maybin/Andrew Miller or all the prospects the Brewers gave up for Sabathia, or the Mets for Santana....none of those guys have panned out. Wherever did they say JR wasnt willing to take on additional salary? Pretty much every season JR gives KW money to make moves if they feel that there is a chance to win it. Everything you are saying above is just you guessing, we have no idea what is or is not an option or monetarily feasible.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 11:19 AM) Would have liked to see Beck higher, but he has to prove it himself. Just based on potential, in our system, he should be a Top 10 guy. Once they get his muscle mass down and get back to the basics with his mechanics, he should be a better pitching prospect overall than Molina. Saladino's fallen quite a bit, but there are some obvious reasons which were duly noted. The only way he could be a major league starter is at SS or 2B, definitely not 3B. Needs to rediscover that missing power. Probably would have had Soptic higher, too. Some names that didn't make it: Wilkins (struggling average-wise), Heath, Veal, Olacio, Santos Rodriguez, Kenny Williams, Jr. (haha), SS we just signed from DR, Miguel Gonzalez, Jaye or Webb (the two kids we got from the Jays for Frasor) A lot of people like Hansen and Ayala from this draft. One other thing that sticks out is how low Quintana and Jones were coming into the season, even here....where these prospects are followed religiously. How would anyone have any idea about him? He was a complete unknown because he was only with the org since November

So good. So bad for you.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 11:03 AM) But look at all the players who KW was part of drafting that were hybrid baseball/football players or never taught how to play the game fundamentally well... You can blame it on the minor league staff, but drafting athletes and turning them into baseball players hasn't worked on the position player side. Beckham was supposed to be a "pure/natural/instinctive baseball player" and look where we're at with him. It's like he is either listening too much to others or he won't listen enough and he's stubborn, because you can't have a 15 homer guy striking out 150 times per season and not hitting well with RISP or advancing runners professionally. We've proven we can find pitching talent. And maybe Viciedo will become an All-Star. And maybe Hawkins or Barnum will make it, but we've always done better finding guys like Quentin and DeAza when they're with other organizations. It is fitting that Youkilis kind of represents something we've never been able to produce ourselves. High OBP. Patience. Ability to professionally work an at-bat and extend it. Clutch hitter. Granted, there aren't that many Youkilises out there...but it's almost like Morel was the anti-Youkilis in terms of patience and drawing walks. And yeah, we might produce a "grindy" infielder like an Aaron Miles or Chris Getz from time to time, but they're not impact players. And while a LOT of teams missed on Trout, it's ironic that we picked the high risk/high reward guy in Mitchell instead. (At least Mitchell's proven he can take a walk in 2012, there's that.) What matters is the major league team, not who was drafted and who is fumbling around in the minors. And more often than not, Ozzie was given some really good teams that never played up to potential.

Verlander is dating Kate Upton? This world sucks

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 10:47 AM) You do know rookies frequently get better, right? He's not likely to be a star, but there are far worse players in the league and his contract is extremely reasonable. The Bulls should cut Butler RIGHT NOW

I disagree that Cowley has absolutely no baseball insight, but he is so jaded by the dynamic between Ozzie and KW that he just cannot express any insight anymore. I have listened to him on Hit&Run a few times, and he has had some interesting things to say, but as soon as he can he injects Ozzie into the discussion and it just becomes the same thing. I listened for 5 minutes the other day on my way to Jewel, and within those 5 minutes he managed to say "You know I was talking to Walker in the offseason, and he said to me 'You wouldnt believe some of the stuff going on in the clubhouse last season, it was unbelievable and unprofessional'" Well of course Walker is going to say that, the guy left with an obvious chip on his shoulder and was blamed for a lot of the hitting problems(rightly or wrongly, Im not looking to get into a debate over it DA). He isnt going to have anything nice to say. Now that he is "neutered" I have seen some of articles, and he has been staying out of baseball talk a lot. This last article was a lot of the old stuff though, very disappointing.

The thing that pissed me off about Washington is that he didn't even start switching out position players until the 6th inning. Hey Ron, you have lost 2 world series now and both times you haven't had home field advantage. Why don't you try and get it next time?

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 06:31 PM) They've been talking up that Hester Package as if he'll be a legit WR though. Not saying more targets than Marshall or Bennett, but certainly could be more than Jefferey or Thomas. Then again it could be offseason propaganda and nothing more They have been telling us since he signed his contract that he would be involved more. They have tried, its just a square peg in a round hole. The guy is a gimmick WR, Dante Hall without the prior knowledge of the position. He is an amazing kick returner, I'm happy leaving him doing that now that there are some bigtime WRs on the roster

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 07:24 PM) I actually don't think the Heat got better. Wade is a year older and slower and a lot can happen with Ray Allen (whom I like a lot). They got hot at the right time and are a great team (and LBJ is amazing). However, I don't believe they are this unstoppable force. To be frank, the West is still relatively winnable. The Nets aren't better then a Bulls team with Rose at 75%, neither are the Knicks, imo. The Celtics are probably similar (and they aren't a title team) and the Pacers are a little better. East still has just one contender (the defending champs). Thunder will get better (young players blossoming), Lakers got better. Spurs have not gotten better. Dallas is worse. These two players arent the concern though(although Wade is definitely a great player). As long as LBJ is healthy, they are to be considered the favorite until someone can knock them off their perch. LBJ conquered his playoff/finals demons last season, and we all saw what happened when MJ did that. It didnt matter who was surrounding him besides Pippen, they were going to win. Sitting around and hoping that the "core" gets healthy, stays healthy, and gets better in the next two years while every other team is actively trying to get better is really a piss poor plan.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 06:42 PM) Oh s***. He must really suck then. He is no superstar, that's for sure

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 05:49 PM) In 2 years we can hypothetically have Boozer gone, Deng gone, and Rip gone. CJ Watsons contract is replaced by Hinrich's, and Ronnie Brewers 4 million, let's say that goes to Roses extension so he earns around 19 million per year, right? We can have around $30 million off the cap in 2 years, roughly. So you are assuming Taj is gone, Asik is not matched, correct? So even in your own scenario, this core that you want to keep so bad this season is going to be broken apart within 2 years?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 05:30 PM) This doesn't matter to me 1/64th as much as "different starting point guard on opening night". Of course, but that is a given. I'm not going to point out something that is that obvious.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 05:32 PM) Apparently he also has to worry about being a WR, Bears sound determined to make the Hester Package a staple of the offense. He isn't getting more reps than Marshall, Jeffery and Bennett. Hell, he may not get more reps than Devin Thomas

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 05:25 PM) Continuity is severely underrated on this board in basketball. The bulls staying pat with this team and then having a bunch of expiring contracts in 2014 really isn't an awful idea. If you shake up this team while rose recovers, the only thing to do is gamble, take a bunch of s***ty expiring contracts and hope to get a really great draft that you have the lottery pick in, in addition to 2015 when you (likely) have a lottery pick plus mirotic coming. But that sends a terrible message to your superstar. The bulls team is really good. They play excellent defense. Look at the runs that memphis and the sixers made relying only on defense. The Bulls team you knew is not going to be the same next season. The bench mob will be quite different

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 05:20 PM) I'm just saying good luck played a huge part in the Heat winning. And it could play a huge part in us winning. Luck is a factor in all sports, its a factor in every victory or defeat. Yeah, luck and having 3 top 15 players in the NBA. Something you refuse to acknowledge

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 05:16 PM) OKC only won one game against the Heat, do you think the Spurs or Lakers couldn't have done at least that? It's not as simpel as saying Heat > OKC > Spurs therefore Heat > Spurs It also isnt as simple as saying "Derrick got hurt, Howard got hurt, Spurs and Lakers lost, Mario chalmers got hot, and that makes the Heat not as good as everyone thinks" Again, the Heat rolled the postseason. No matter what caveats you want to throw in there, they won it all, beat everyone in front of them. If the Spurs and Lakers would have been such a great matchup, then they should have beaten the Thunder.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 05:07 PM) Yes, LBJ and Wade getting hurt would be lucky for us. If you look at the Heats title run, an amazing amount of lucky happenings aided them. 1. Derrick Rose got hurt, taking the Bulls out of contention 2. Dwight Howard got hurt, taking the Magic out of contention. 3. Ray Allen and Avery Bradley got injured, severely weakening the Celtics. 4. Spurs and Lakers got eliminated, either one of them might have given the Heat a better fight than the inexperienced OKC team 5. Shane Battier, Mike Miller and Mario Chalmers got hot. Health/good luck is needed for any title run, Bulls just have not had it the past 2 years. LMAO, the Spurs and Lakers got eliminated in short order by that same OKC team that got steamrolled by the heat. You just cannot admit it, the Heat are the best team in the league. Regardless of what happened to Derrick.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 05:02 PM) Doesn't make much sense to me to go after Howard without an extension when there's no guarantee Rose will play at all during the 1 year the team would actually have him. If the other pieces of the vaunted "core"(Noah and Deng) are traded for Howard, and Howard doesnt stay, the Bulls have a hell of a lot of room to go out and build around him. To be honest, right now I would prefer going into 2013-2014 like that than I would going in saying "PLEASE STAY HEALTHY ROSE DENG AND NOAH WHO NEVER STAY HEALTHY AT THE SAME TIME"

I am so glad he didnt give up good prospects for this guy, like he always does

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 03:05 PM) I just hope it doesn't distract Hester. All Hester has to worry about is returning kicks, this shouldnt distract him from that.

How does this make any sense at all? They are trying to drag 3rd and 4th teams into the deal to make it work, period. If they could have just done a straight up trade, then why didnt they just do it in the first place?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 12:42 PM) Yeah, they need a nice ballpark like Cleveland, so that when they have a team 3 games out of the lead in their division, they won't be 29th in MLB in attendance. Cleveland did set an attendance record for like 13 seasons after they got their new ballpark. But when it fell off, it fell off a cliff