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LeCroy was designated for assignment by the Nationals. Anyone willing to get this guy to back up AJ? That way we can get rid of Widger's worthless ass.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 11:16 AM) Unless the Phillies wanna dump Meyers because of his attitude, your gonna have to give a ton up to get him. Gordon you'll probably have to give Garcia. which im fine with. So the question with Myers is, do you look past the fact that the guy is a wife beater for his real good pitching? its a moral thing. If its a moral thing the answer is a "hell no" I'm just interested to see where he'll end up, because I know some team that is desperate for pitching will ignore that fact.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 11:04 AM) I think there is a line. What that is, I don't know. For instance, I doubt the Sox would be interested in someone convicted of a hate crime. I just think this incident is over the top ugly and out of line. Wife-beating should not be tolerated or brushed aside just because a guy has an ability to throw a baseball others can't hit very well. In no way should it be tolerated, but you know that someone out there in need of pitching is going to realize they can get this guy for cheap. In all honesty I don't know how I would feel if the Sox did happen to acquire him, from a baseball standpoint I'd be happy with the move, however by a moral standpoint I'd be sickened. I honestly had no idea about the magnitude of the situation involving Myers and his wife. QUOTE(Felix @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 10:45 AM) There's a bit of a difference between having trouble with substances and punching your wife in the face. A huge difference. I'm aware, but didn't Bobby also use to burn himself? I thought there was also a history of physical violence too. Maybe not.

QUOTE(bschmaranz @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 10:53 AM) While we're at it, let's just bring Sammy Sosa back too... the Chicago Ike Turners shall be our new name. Theres a difference, Myers is actually talented. Sosa was a no talent ass clown that was on roids and just swung the bat as hard as he could. That and Sosa used a rum bottle. QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 10:50 AM) Brett Myers was arrested in Boston last night for allegedly striking his wife. The couple were walking back to their hotel from a bar when a dispute broke out just blocks from Fenway Park. The incident occurred just after midnight and appears pretty gruesome. Here are the details from the Boston Globe: Myers' wife, told police she believed her husband hit her twice in the face with a closed fist. Witnesses told police Myers dragged his wife by the hair and slapped her across the face. Procopio said it is unclear if Myers punched his wife or slapped her, but he did strike her in the face. Courtney Knight, 26, who witnessed the alleged attack, said in an interview today that Myers was out of control. "It was disgusting," Knight said. "He was dragging her by the hair and slapping her across the face. She was yelling, 'I'm not going to let you do this to me anymore.' " Knight said the 6-foot-4 ballplayer dwarfs his wife, who she estimated to be 5 foot 2 and 100 pounds. "She's a real small girl," Knight said. "It was awful." Myers allegedly told Knight and her friends to leave and resisted when they tried to pull him off of his wife, prompting Knight to call police. She said Myers was undeterred by the presence of her group of friends. "He had her on the ground. He was trying to get her to go, and she was resisting," Knight said. "She curled up and sat on the ground. He was pulling her, her shirt up was around her neck....He could have cared less that we were there." Knight said the player appeared to be fighting with his wife because he wanted to return to their hotel and she did not. This is not a guy any team should want on his roster. I don't care if he throws the ball 150 MPH. Wow holy s***. I didn't realize it was that bad...

QUOTE(Felix @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 10:37 AM) Myers punched his wife in the face. If he ever gets on the Sox, I'll be sickened. True. However we have taken chances on guys with troubled pasts. Our closer is one of those guys...then again I don't remember Bobby ever punching his wife/gf in the face.

THIS IS NOT A RUMOR, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS POSSIBLE DEAL AT WORK THE OTHER DAY. (yeah it was that slow) Just out of curiousity, do you think we could pry Brett Myers away from the Phillies along with Flash Gordon? I understand that once again gives us 6 starters, however Kenny was quoted a couple days ago saying that his plan was to have six starting pitchers the entire season. I also think that the Phillies would be willing to part ways with him fairly easily considering the altercation between he and his wife in Boston. Thoughts on this?

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 02:16 PM) I agree with you. But there's a good chance we might not be able to upgrade our rotation. If that's the case, I think we should improve other parts of the team. So it goes to reason that a CF who hits .270 with 35-40 bombs would be an upgrade over Anderson. Pitching >>>>>> Hitting. If we give up young talent for that much offensive output, there is no reason we cant get a quality starting pitcher.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 02:11 PM) July hot streak or not, Brian Anderson is still the least productive hitter in our lineup. Furthermore, if this team doesn't acquire pitching, we're going to have to outslug teams. Andruw Jones would be a great addition especially with my expectation that the rest of the hitters won't continue on their pace. If Anderson keeps hitting like this for the rest of the season, I'm obviously wrong. But I don't think he will. Brian Anderson is not the problem with this team....it's the starting rotation. Why give up young talent for something that isn't a HUGE concern. If Anderson hits .200-.220 I'll be ecstatic, especially with how he started.

Proctor in the pen? What's Mussina's PC? I'd love to get the Yanks pen in the 6th.

Is that true about the flu rumor? Anyone heard anything besides Farmer's statement?

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 02:04 PM) Both of these guys are total idiots. I'm listening to the radio while watching the game. Agreed. Buck will never be as good as his father was.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:48 PM) We're not playing National League teams anymore. There's not a baseball expert alive who's watched our series vs the Red Sox and Yankees and thought we were a better team. The scary thing is that we've had our 2 best guys face both teams in the 5 games so far. As I'm sure there wasn't a baseball expert out there who picked the White Sox to beat the Red Sox in the ALDS last year? We're just plain bad right now, not just the pitching, the defense, its just not there. The two main ingredients of the 2005 team. CWSOX45

The Red Sox and Yankees have yet to see what we're capable of.... Regardless though Kenny should be making calls about starting pitching. Im beyond frustrated right now.... :banghead

God this is f***ing ridiculous. This team looks f***ing horrible. Ozzie needs to start kicking these guys in the ass. This series is big too, I dont buy that "It's only July bulls***" We have a 5.0 game lead in the wild card, and now it's going to be 4.0. Not to mention a 4.5 game lead in the AL Central.

What hte f*** is that? This team has their heads up their asses right now. Are you f***ing serious?! WAKE THE f*** UP.

I never expected our starting staff to repeat its success in 2005, but what I've seen so far this year sickens me.

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QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:24 PM) On the bright side, maybe we'll be forced to make a move in the next 7-10 days if we get destroyed by the Yanks/Tigers. I can't believe how much our starters have underarchieved over the past few months. Did you see the teams on our schedule to start the 2nd half? I don't give a s*** who we play. Yanks/Royals, whatever. Our rotation has the ability to shut down any offense if they get their s*** together.

I was hoping that after the all-star break our starters would regain their true form....now I'm starting to get extremely concerned...

f***. Our starting pitching continues to be s***.

For f***s sake...

I hate Bruce Froemming......what hurt us the most that inning was Anderson not getting Cintron over to third with 0 outs...

QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 12:54 PM) No, it was Jim Duquette not Dan Duquette, and I think it was actually Steve Phillips who did the trade, you are in the wrong league. And the POINT IS, that you hear mets fans b****ing every day. Who the GM was is irrelevant. I go to school with a bunch of Mets fans, I asked them what they thought of that trade, and they said they didn't like it at the time, but if the Mets won the series this year, they couldn't give two s***s about Kazmir in Tampa. That's what the mindset of Mets fans are now, and that's hopefully is Minaya's mindset.

QUOTE(peanut33tillman @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 11:52 AM) Do you really think Minaya is that much of an idiot to trade a future all star for many years to come in Lastings, and a very promising young reliever for Freddy and a man whos pitching as if he should be in Charlotte?? abolsutely not.. It's not whether he's dumb enough to do it, it's whether he gets desperate enough that he is FORCED to do it. Let's take a look at the Mets starting rotation as of right now: 1. Glavine 2. El Duque 3. Trachsel 4. John Maine 5. Mike Pelfrey Wow how would you feel if the White Sox rotation looked like that heading into the playoffs? I'm not sure about Pedro's health, so we don't know how he is going to respond once he comes off the DL. Minaya knows that rotation won't cut it, and I'm sure is feeling the heat. I also go to school out on the east coast, and the pressure for the Mets to win is 10 times more this year than other years past, especially since the Yanks aren't in a position to make the post-season. The Mets have been a laughing stock for awhile in the Big Apple, and there is no doubt in my mind that Minaya would part ways with Milledge if he absolutly had to.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 11:23 AM) NO, Minaya was not the one who made that deal. my mistake, it was duquette. Still, I don't even consider this deal if Milledge isn't involved. I'd rather have flash.