DrunkBomber

I know nobody wants to hear this right now but the continuing to call people sexist, racist etc for disagreeing with you isnt helping anything.

This is because dem voters, the media and most importantly the DNC all tried to force a candidate that simply couldnt be president. The DNC went to so many levels to try and cheat and rig this election and people wanted to just act like it was ok. The Clintons are the most corrupt people on the planet and anyone who supported Hillary got exactly what they deserve.

I told you that the dems picked the worst candidate in the world.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 05:49 AM) So basically Huma Abedin's suspect because of her ties to Saudi Arabia, Colin Powell's not in any trouble at all for announcing to the world that Israel has 200 nuclear missiles aimed at Teheran, And HRC is going to be impeached. http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/polit...ney-war-crimes/ That will happen about the same time Bush, Cheney and Powell are brought up on charges of lying to Congress and the United Nations about Iraq having chemical/biological weapons and yellow cake blah blah ... Or when they are arraigned on "war crimes" charges in the U.S. I'll bet all of Greg's houses against it happening...regardless of whether she wins or loses. I hadnt heard that. I googled it and there was some interesting stuff though.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 07:33 AM) No there isn't, but you seem determined to remain ignorant on this. I posted it Edit: Also, if you want to go back to just arguing semantics or twisting words to fit your narrative and call me ignorant then you can discuss this with yourself. I have posted proof of everything Ive said numerous times and since you have absolutely no argument you go right back to snarky comments with no substance. I have no interest in playing your stupid games. I posted over 20 links proving incompetence and corruption in the gop thread and you didnt have a thing to say about it except a weak claim that "dems arent supposed to post in that thread" lol

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 01:29 AM) Well lets start with the terminology. If she wins then it would be up to the House to "impeach" her. If the House "impeaches" her then the Senate would have to convict her. If the Senate convicts her she is removed from office. So if that happens she wont be President. If the question is, do I personally think that if a President is successfully convicted by the Senate they should be removed from office, my answer is yes. Whether its Hillary, Trump, Lincoln, Reagan, Washington, those are the rules. In case you are more interested about the impeachment process here is the link from the Senate: http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/histor...chment_Role.htm All I am saying is that the chance of Hillary being convicted by the Senate is almost 0. It literally would take the Democratic party imploding on itself. Granted, maybe there is something that I am unaware of in the emails (Hillary admitting that she is Hitler, Saddam etc reincarnated or actually is them wearing a mask), but anything short of that Hillary is safe. Also the bold pretty contradicts the points youve been trying to make the whole time. I cant use a video testimony from Cooper that admits criminal activity as a point because according to you its not fair until she gets her day in court. But then you go and say you that you KNOW there is 0 chance she is convicted, despite proof of a crime. gmafb lol.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 01:29 AM) Well lets start with the terminology. If she wins then it would be up to the House to "impeach" her. If the House "impeaches" her then the Senate would have to convict her. If the Senate convicts her she is removed from office. So if that happens she wont be President. If the question is, do I personally think that if a President is successfully convicted by the Senate they should be removed from office, my answer is yes. Whether its Hillary, Trump, Lincoln, Reagan, Washington, those are the rules. In case you are more interested about the impeachment process here is the link from the Senate: http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/histor...chment_Role.htm All I am saying is that the chance of Hillary being convicted by the Senate is almost 0. It literally would take the Democratic party imploding on itself. Granted, maybe there is something that I am unaware of in the emails (Hillary admitting that she is Hitler, Saddam etc reincarnated or actually is them wearing a mask), but anything short of that Hillary is safe. There is video of Justin Cooper testifying that he and Hillary both committed a crime. There are people in jail right now for doing exactly what Cooper testified that they did. If youre saying it doesnt matter simply because our bulls*** process will make it very difficult to actually enforce the law then you are quite simply saying its ok if she breaks the law because of who she is. You cant have it both ways.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 11:28 PM) I never said it was "ok". I believe in innocent until proven guilty. My record on this matter is pretty substantial on this message board. Ive said it for good people, ive said it for bad people, people I agree with, people I disagree with. There is no point in speculating on partial evidence, its just not worthwhile. If she is prosecuted and I get access to the docs, Ill gladly go through it, but for now she isnt even being prosecuted. Clearly you think its ok if you still think she should be President. So are you saying that if she wins and then ends up getting indicted or something and found guilty you would agree she should be impeached? Or are you saying that no matter what they decide to do she should be allowed to be the President?

lol what does that picture have to do with this? The media shouldnt add words into a statement in an attempt to influence the election. If this was an isolated incident it wouldnt be a big deal. But its pretty pathetic that it has happened numerous times because Hillary is struggling.

Media Gonna Media CNN added the word "racial" to Donald Trump's Monday comments on terrorism and immigration, and is running headlines reporting that the GOP nominee is advocating "racial profiling". But a review of the transcript of Trump's comments to Fox News that CNN quoted, however, shows that Trump never put the word "racial" in front of “profiling.”

Are you implying that she didnt send or receive classified info because thats what she said to the media? Thats not what she said to the fbi or what the fbi said to us.

I loath Ted Cruz but Im glad hes fighting this http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/inte...on-icann-227864 Ted Cruz and other Republicans are barreling toward a September showdown with the White House over its plan to give up oversight of the internet, as the Obama administration tries to rally support from the tech and telecom industries. GOP lawmakers have long warned that the administration's plan to relinquish its authority over ICANN, the global nonprofit that manages the internet's domain name system, could give authoritarian countries like China and Russia an opening to make an online power grab. Now, as the actual date of the transition approaches — Oct. 1 — Republicans are looking at throwing up new obstacles.

Im sure Huma is a lovely young lady. I thought she was great in the Weiner doc. Great film btw.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 09:30 PM) This isnt a court room, and it doesnt matter what is enough for you. What matters is when you say "its going to happen" when you completely disregard how the system has worked. Fact: 0 presidents have ever been successfully convicted by the Senate. In US history there have been 19 impeachments, only 6 have been convicted (well according to Wikipedia I cant seem to get any search to hit on the actual people). For you to be so certain that she will be convicted runs contrary to American history. Remember she would have to get elected. If she is elected that means that not many Democrats are going to go after her and risk losing their Senate position. Thus the chance that I believe 20+ Democratic Senators will turn on Hillary is closer to 0 than 100. But if Hillary gets elected, we can bet on it. Nothing major, but Ill take that Hillary is not convicted by the Senate. As Ive said, unless Trump does something really stupid or gets destroyed in the debate I think he is going to win. Every day Hillary has new bulls*** coming out, its incredible. And I doubt she will end up going to jail for this but there are people sitting in jail for doing what she did but on a much smaller scale. I understand that you think it should be ok for her to commit these crimes because it is needed to prevent Donald Trump from getting to the White House. But she shouldnt be above the law because she is a Clinton. We shouldnt be held to higher standards than someone running for President. Despite their grand standing its important to have politicians like Trey Gowdey and Jason Chaffetz. Id enjoy watching them destroy any politician from any party. Hillary had the god damn FBI and DOJ covering for her and almost got away with it.

Youre really downplaying the severity of this and I imagine you know that.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 09:22 PM) In a tallest midget contest they are still midgets. Not sure many people are singing Hillary's praises, I just think many rational people believe that at worst Hillary will be a mediocre President where nothing gets done for 4 years. Its Trump or Hillary, I know I cant vote for Trump, so Turd sandwich it is. But are you ready for a Tim Kaine Presidency?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 09:18 PM) I think you are confusing how our legal system works. You are not "proven guilty" until there is a trial and you are found guilty. It doesnt matter what "evidence" there is before the trial, again you keep saying proof, but its "evidence." Trials are tricky. Again you keep saying "impeached", even if she was "impeached" she would then have to go to trial in the Senate, where 67% of the Senate would have to vote her guilty. The last time it went to the Senate, the vote was almost completely by party lines (a few Republican's voted innocent I believe), but it wasnt even close to the necessary 67%. I am not saying that Hillary did or didnt do it, I am saying that its almost impossible to believe that Hillary would be successfully prosecuted in the Senate given how the process works. This is just the reality of the system. Whether or not you want to believe that its up to you. But I honestly think its more likely that Trump gets convicted of fraud in his "college" than Hillary gets convicted of this. Were not in a court room counselor. Facts are more than enough for me, and most reasonable people, when forming an opinion. Im not saying they should go lock her up now. Im just saying its going to happen. Also, heres the video again of Cooper testifying

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 09:06 PM) Db why do you think it was inappropriate for huma to have access to Clinton's non secured email account? Why do you think she has a questionable background? I dont even need to waste time arguing about her. Justin Cooper testified on tv saying he had full access to the server and absolutely didnt have any clearance.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 09:04 PM) Hillary went on trial and was found guilty, when did that happen? Not saying its a hack. Im saying that you are trusting Wikileaks with the information they are presenting. You have no idea if Wikileaks provided all of the information, neither do I. I posted at least two blatant examples of her committing crimes in the republican thread with sources. But Justin Cooper testified to the House Oversight Committee that he, Huma and Chelsea all had unlimited access to Hillary's private server. I posted the actual video of him saying he had access and he didnt have clearance. "Hey its Huma" also corroborates that story. She also tampered with evidence that was under subpoena and a preservation order. She deleted 33000 emails. The guy who did it just got busted by Reddit of all places because he was asking people how to do what he needed to do to those emails. I believe he even posted the ip address. There are several facts that prove she has committed crimes. There is no way she wouldnt get impeached if she became president.

Also, as I said in the first post about it, this wasnt a hack. This came from a FOIA request from Judicial Watch. Wikileaks just tweeted it out

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 08:54 PM) You are just posting conclusions. Huma had security clearance. What that clearance entitled her to do or not do, I have no idea and I doubt many people do. Maybe its a big deal, maybe its nothing. But you said above you are socially liberal, what happened to innocent until proven guilty? That isnt something you just believe in when it suits you, its what you believe when your worst enemy is being accused. I tried to go through that wikileaks database, its horribly organized. The doc numbers seem to jump, so I cant put together what emails come before or after it. 29422 2010-11-11 10:20 LET ME KNOW WHEN WE CAN TALK. Hillary Clinton Jake Sullivan 1186 2010-11-11 10:43 LET ME KNOW WHEN WE CAN TALK. Jake Sullivan Hillary Clinton 29372 2010-11-11 10:49 LET ME KNOW WHEN WE CAN TALK. Hillary Clinton Jake Sullivan From what I can tell there is no way to just go through the emails sequentially. When I went through them all with search "Hillary Clinton" (which should pull all emails) you get this: 6953 2010-11-11 08:54 CAN YOU TALK SECURE AFTER 7 TONIGHT OR AFTER 9AM TOMORROW? Hillary Clinton dennis_b._ross 6952 2010-11-11 08:57 CAN YOU TALK SECURE AFTER 7 TONIGHT OR AFTER 9AM TOMORROW? Hillary Clinton dennis_b._ross 6951 2010-11-11 09:01 CAN YOU TALK SECURE AFTER 7 TONIGHT OR AFTER 9AM TOMORROW? Hillary Clinton dennis_b._ross 6950 2010-11-11 09:02 CAN YOU TALK SECURE AFTER 7 TONIGHT OR AFTER 9AM TOMORROW? Hillary Clinton dennis_b._ross 6949 2010-11-11 09:06 CAN YOU TALK SECURE AFTER 7 TONIGHT OR AFTER 9AM TOMORROW? Hillary Clinton dennis_b._ross 29422 2010-11-11 10:20 LET ME KNOW WHEN WE CAN TALK. Hillary Clinton Jake Sullivan 29372 2010-11-11 10:49 LET ME KNOW WHEN WE CAN TALK. Hillary Clinton Jake Sullivan 6948 2010-11-11 13:12 ISRAELIS Hillary Clinton Huma Abedin 6947 2010-11-11 13:14 ISRAELIS Hillary Clinton Huma Abedin 29391 2010-11-11 15:23 RE: Hillary Clinton Cheryl Mills 29408 2010-11-12 02:24 JACKSON DIEHL EDITORIAL Hillary Clinton Phillip Crowley 29429 2010-11-12 03:00 (REUTERS) SAUDI KING TOLD TO REST OVER SLIPPED DISC Hillary Clinton Huma Abedin 6942 2010-11-12 07:52 3DS FORWARD - ASIA PACIFIC Hillary Clinton Jake Sullivan Here is whats odd, 1186 does not appear there, nor does it make any sense sequentially. What is even more odd is that there seems to be tons of document numbers missing. You cant search by doc numbers (really really odd), which means docs like 6943-6946 are somewhere else. But where? And if the search is "Hillary Clinton" and the results are by date, how are they not in the right place? Now maybe Hillary is the biggest crook in the world, maybe she committed every crime you say. But you have to be as suspicious of Wikileaks as you are Hillary. Hillary has been proven guilty. She just hasnt been prosecuted yet.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 08:16 PM) Some context would help here. An outgoing email from Hillary's private email address saying "Hey its Huma" Not only does she not have the clearance to see that stuff, but letting someone with the questionable background of Abedin have access to every single piece of classified info from the US Secretary of State is a very big deal. There's more stuff at the link too. This wasnt a hack either. This was from a FOIA request from Judicial Watch.

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emaili...AGZAHlAIhAJrALn

That was insane deflection by Callahan in the end zone

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 07:31 PM) Here is video of the guy deleting his posts. Some people on twitter claiming he accidentally posted the ip address. If thats true it could be a big deal.