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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 09:36 AM) As a country we have bastardized the work "holiday" anyway, when using it to describe things like "sweetest day" anyways. The word derives from "holy day", which has obvious religious implications, so yeah, a national day of mourning would be a more accurate discription, but we do have somber holidays in this country like Memorial Day and Veterans Day, so it could fit in with how we use it now. I don't think it fits in at all. Memorial Day and Vet's Day "celebrate" something so very far from what happened on 9-11 they are not even in the same universe, IMO.

A "holiday"... poor description, IMO. National Day of Mourning, perhaps. Which is what, IMO, is done every year already.

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 08:40 AM) It died again. I hope it just needs more dry time. We made calls and went through his phonebook and it worked for 45 minutes before dying. Took Jim's a couple days before it stopped freaking out and dropping calls. The display was also screwed up for a day or so after as well, but eventually went back to normal.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 08:33 AM) Wow. I never knew there were other videos of the first plane's impact. 2 snipits, one from a man shooting video of his kids in the city and another from a guy shooting video from somewhere near the Brooklyn Bridge. Both just barely got it. The thing that really really killed me was Rudy's exec assistants husband was working there and was killed. She found out days later that she was pregnant.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 08:26 AM) The video from the firefighters training on the streets or a new video? The firefighters and then several new tourist video's.

QUOTE(Brian @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 08:20 AM) I downloaded that whole show about a year after it all happened. I wanted to strangle Robin than more than anyother time I listened to the show. She sounded like such a dingbat. They all sounded nuts, as I remember I sounded also. No one knew what was going on.

QUOTE(Brian @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 08:16 AM) I got up, went straight to the shower without turning my TV on. Turned my bathroom radio on, which was the Score at the time, and think Murph and Fred were talking about how it was an accident at the WTC. I was like, "huh?". While in the shower, they went to cbs news the rest of the day after the 2nd plane hit. Couldn't believe my eyes when I got back to my room and turned the TV on. I was already at work. Spent most of the day in the lunchroom watching. Howard is replaying his show from that day right now... It's so surreal to hear their speculation and reaction to the events as they happened.

Thanks Flash. I'm looking forward to watching it. On Saturday I watched a special on HBO detailing the day, for the first time saw the first plane hitting WTC North, and I just sat silent watching it.

8:46 eastern time flight 11 crashed into WTC North. for all those who lost friends, family, and co-workers.

Did anyone watch it? I Tivo'd it and plan to watch later this week. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060911/ap_on_...DltBHNlYwM3MTY- NEW YORK - ABC made several editing changes to the first part of its miniseries "The Path to 9/11" following furious protests by Clinton administration officials that it fabricated scenes about their actions prior to the terrorist attacks. But the network resisted calls to cancel the $40 million miniseries, airing commercial-free over two nights. Part two is scheduled for Monday, with an interruption for President Bush's address to the nation. Several scenes were cut or changed from the movie that aired Sunday and finished 20 minutes shy of its three-hour time slot. ABC has called it a dramatization, not a documentary. One scene, in a copy of the movie given to television critics a few weeks ago, indicated President Clinton's preoccupation with his potential impeachment may have hurt the effort to go after Osama bin Laden. In the original scene, an actor portraying White House terrorism czar Richard Clarke shares a limousine ride with FBI agent John O'Neill and tells him: "The Republicans are going all-out for impeachment. I just don't see in that climate the president's going to take chances" and give the order to kill bin Laden. But in the film aired Sunday, Clarke says to O'Neill: "The president has assured me this ... won't affect his decision-making." O'Neill replies: "So it's OK if somebody kills bin Laden, as long as he didn't give the order. It's pathetic." Another scene in the critics' cut showed O'Neill asking Clarke on the telephone: "What's Clinton going to do (about bin Laden)?" Clarke replies, "I don't know. The Lewinsky thing is a noose around his neck." This was cut entirely from the film that aired Sunday. Another scene in the movie that depicted a team of CIA operatives poised outside of bin Laden's fortress in Afghanistan, ready to attack, was substantially shortened from the original. Pictures of the waiting Afghanistan operatives are interspersed with those of officials in Washington, who had to approve the mission. The original version depicted national security adviser Samuel R. Berger hanging up on CIA chief George Tenet as Tenet sought permission to attack bin Laden. The movie aired Sunday did not include Berger hanging up. The effect of the editing in that scene is to deflect specific blame. It ends with actor Donnie Wahlberg, portraying the head of the CIA team in Afghanistan, saying: "Are there no men in Washington, or are they all cowards?" In the critics' version, Wahlberg's statement is followed directly by archival footage of Clinton's video testimony about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. Sunday, that footage was not included. Twice, the network de-emphasized the role of the commission that investigated the terrorist attacks in its film. The critics' version contained a note in the opening credits that the film is "based on the 9/11 commission report." That was omitted Sunday. In a separate disclaimer that ran three times Sunday, ABC said the material is "drawn from a variety of sources including the 9/11 commission report and other published materials and from personal interviews." That differs from a note in the critics' version that said the dramatization "is based on the 9/11 commission report and other published sources and personal interviews." The disclaimer emphasized that the movie was not a documentary. "For dramatic and narrative purposes the movie contains fictionalized scenes, composite and representative characters and dialogue, as well as time compression," the note said. Clinton spokesman Jay Carson said in a statement Sunday night that ABC and its parent, The Walt Disney Co., "chose fiction over fact and entertainment over education in airing their TV show." Critics, such as historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr., said it was "disingenuous and dangerous" not to include accurate historical accounts in the movie. Thomas Kean, head of the commission that investigated the Sept. 11 attacks and a backer of the film, said on ABC's "This Week" Sunday that he hadn't seen the final cut of the movie but urged Americans to watch it. "If people blame Bill Clinton after seeing this, then the miniseries has failed," said Kean, the former Republican New Jersey governor. "That's wrong and it shouldn't happen." John Lehman, another Republican commission member, said on the ABC News show that he's told the film is equally harsh on the administrations of President Bush and his father. "And if you don't like the hits to the Clinton administration, well, welcome to the club," Lehman said. "The Republicans have lived with Michael Moore and Oliver Stone and most of Hollywood as a fact of life."

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 05:39 PM) If you want to collect blood, you need to follow the blood collecting rules. ^^.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 03:32 PM) Yeah, the improved eyesight is key. You can see the pitch better, and with the added muscle, you can wait a little longer, allowing you to see it even better. This is what allowed THG to go yard 73 times in 2001, while still getting all those walks Taking steroids does not improve your eyesight, or your hand-eye coordination. QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 08:20 AM) Excatly. What I meant is that that was the reason why Bonds went yard 73 times, despite all the walks, that he was able to see the ball better, and could wait on it a little longer. Of course Bonds could hit w/o the juice. He was a 500-500 guy w/o it That might be what you meant, but you are incorrect.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 07:12 PM) I thought it was legal to gamble if you were 18? What's the big deal here? In a lot of states gambling is illegal.

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 06:12 AM) It lives!!!! I was hoping if I let it dry out it would be okay and it is - woohoo!!! I was just going to tell you that. Jim's fell in Fox Lake a few weekends ago and after it dried it was fine.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 08:58 AM) Not a doubt in my mind, I would get help before doing it, or I wouldn't do it. That was my advice as well. And if you don't have the time... then get the person in a emergency program.

If you had to be part of one, would you enlist professional help? Or at the very least get some professional advice?

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 08:17 AM) Sexy...her makeup looks like a black eye. I like that. LOL.. That's her lazy eye.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060908/ap_en_...DJlYmhvBHNlYwM- NEW YORK - ABC defended a miniseries on the events leading up to the Sept. 11 attacks after Clinton administration officials said it distorts history so drastically that it should be corrected or shelved. "No one has seen the final version of the film, because the editing process is not yet complete, so criticisms of film specifics are premature and irresponsible," the network said in a statement Thursday. Former administration officials and Senate Democrats said in letters to the head of the network's parent company that the "The Path to 9/11" was "terribly wrong." Former President Clinton, speaking with news reporters after a Democratic fundraiser in Arkansas on Thursday, said he hadn't seen the ABC film. "But I think they ought to tell the truth, particularly if they are going to claim it is based on the 9/11 Commission report," he said. "They shouldn't have scenes that are directly contradicted by the findings of the 9/11 report."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060908/ap_en_...DRrBHNlYwM3NjI- LOS ANGELES - Ellen DeGeneres has been tapped to host next year's Oscars, the Academy of Motions Pictures Arts and Sciences said Thursday. It will be the comedian and TV talker's first time hosting the Oscars show and first appearance on the award show. She has hosted the Primetime Emmy Awards telecast twice and co-hosted it once, and hosted the Grammys twice.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 03:13 PM) Anyone think the cd thing was set up by her? Its amazing how all this stuff happens when she is debuting something. Also, there is no way she wont beat this DUI. All you need to beat a DUI is money, unless they try to make an example of her. You don't even need $$ until the 4th or 5th one. The first one is a simple charge that wont even become part of her record. The punishment is a fine, 90 day license suspension, and aa classes for a month.

QUOTE(mreye @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 02:54 PM) http://www.suntimes.com/output/ryan/cst-nws-ryan19.html http://www.sj-r.com/extras/ryan/69539.asp And there's eye and s2k with the save.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 02:29 PM) Shockingly, I don't remember that.... I wonder why LMAO

QUOTE(longshot7 @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 02:40 PM) Pardon my ignorance, but who are the Willis children and what do they have to do with Ryan? Thanks to the "buy a license" program which was hush, hush under Ryan's terms, an asshole truck driver got a license when he should not have and plowed into the Willis family van and, IMO, murdered them. I'm mistaken, he didn't plow into them, he was at fault for something that fell off his truck.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 02:31 PM) well, i mean, who are you to make a judgement like this until your child is murdered and the killer (in your and about 70% of the publics eye) skates? you can talk all you want, but i think he can do whatever he wants within the law that helps him with his grief. And just where did I make a judgement? And where did I say what he could and couldn't do? I mean seriously. Come on and give me some s*** about things I actually do say and not some half brained bulls*** from the imagionary voices. GMAFB.. accusing ME of passing judgement on someone who's family member was murdered. You obviously have me confused with Nuke.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 11:49 AM) God I hate her, but I'd love to foul her...I guess I can get in line Ewwwuuu... I wouldn't touch her with my enemies pp.