Steff

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 03:41 PM) I know exactly what you're saying. For my sake, I love the small crowds. We would always be able to move down and get great seats. For the sake of the White Sox and our image, I'm thrilled to hear of the ticket sales. It's also going to be harder for me to get tickets next year because we live too far away to get seasons, but I'm not too upset about that. Oh.. you're one of those fans.. :rolly

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 03:35 PM) Sorry, I took things like "??? " and " :banghead " as "jumping on someone" And yeah you're right, $6 million is a fairly significant difference, but it is still only January 3, which means there are 3 more months until opening day. I think we're both hoping the base can get up to 23. No prob.. my sarcasm is a tough read sometimes.. I'm torn on the increased based. All these years I've become spoiled at the small crowds and the ease in, out, and around the park.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 03:30 PM) Really?! Wow. Still doesn't really make sense, since the split plans only cover 2/3 of the games (the other third was left off split plans). But that aside, if there are at least 20k sold for ALL games somehow, that is really impressive. More so than I thought. Go Sox fans! From what I understand they got rid of one of the 27 gamers to make room for the Ozzie plans. They sold a ton of them.

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 03:24 PM) Why would you jump on somebody for saying 23K. That's only 15% off. I didn't jump on anything.. But considering at an average of $27 per ticket (regular pricing not including prime and premier) that's approx 250K tickets for an approx seating revenue of $6.7 million over the year... pretty significant, IMO.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 03:07 PM) That would stop you from the sewage job too. The smell would kill you. Eventually, I'm sure it would. As well I could be killed tomorrow driving to work in my cushy office job. My point is that I would choose life over home and would rather be poor living in a GE fridge box on lower Wacker BEFORE doing a job with risks such as this.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 03:07 PM) This is not really true. A FULL season base gets you that, yes. But the season ticket base includes split/partial plans as well. In other words, if there are 15k actual full season holders, and 12k split season (27 game) holders worth 1/3 season each, you have a "seaosn ticket base" of 19k. But in reality, a third of those games have only 15k sold. Others may have up to 19k or more, depending on which plans people bought. I am not sure if Ozzies go in there too, at about 1/6 season value, since they are not referred to in the marketing materials as season tickets. But the split plans are. These aren't necessarily the current numbers BTW, just showing an example. At this point there are approx 20K seats sold for every game via full holders, 27 gamers, ozzie plan, etc..

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 03:01 PM) That just makes me think you'd never mine coal, period. Hope you didn't think long about that one... I'd rather scoop up raw sewage with my bare hands then do a job that would risk loss of life of myself or someone in my family.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 02:58 PM) Quiet nitpicker Besides I have a baby to feed, you wouldn't want to take food out of little Madison's mouth would you? Oh paaaleeeeeezzzz... :rolly

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 02:55 PM) If your situation is working at someplace that might be potentially unsafe or losing your family's home, what would you do? Life or home...?? Are you kidding me??? Life.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 02:54 PM) That might happen, but the official number is how many tickets they sell. There have been many nights where we see an attendance of 15k with about half of those dressed as blue seats. Regardless the ticket money still goes into the Sox budget. If you don't want to bet.. just say you don't want to bet..

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 02:52 PM) We aren't going to see any crowds of 10-15k this year. Wana bet...? Sold tickets might not fall under 15K... but butts in seats will.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 02:49 PM) The guy who gets me tickets, it was his friend in the ticket office. I just wanted to see if Brooks would give me a number, and he didn't...like I thought. His friend is a goof.

Who the hell told you 23K... ??? Don't listen to them anymore. :banghead

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 02:28 PM) They know that there are risks to being a mine worker, but the question would be...how many of the miners know about the fines/inspection failures going on at that particular mine? Forgetting about the inspection failures for a minute.. I find it hard to believe they didn't know about a roof collapse... or maybe they didn't know about 1.. maybe even 2 of them.. but NINE of them...

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 02:19 PM) NPR yesterday also said there were 9 different roof collapse events in that mine in 2005. Talk about an accident waiting to happen, and the insignificant wrist slaps they got for all those violations. Yikes.. Poor families of the men/women (??) that are miners. I imagine they know the risks.. I could not be married to someone who did something so dangerous. for all of them.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 12:36 PM) Steff is definitely correct. This is a fact. Not only that, but they did a pre-sale for us to buy extras and that's where most of the ones that were declined went. The Bears should have made an announcement about that.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 01:28 PM) Wow, who said 23k? We've heard "almost" doubled several times from several different folks. That would put us in the neighborhood of 20K to 22K.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 11:51 AM) Thanks for the answer! Goof..

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 11:44 AM) Is the game 2 ring ceremony an official announcement or rumor? I forgot.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 2, 2006 -> 08:50 AM) It changed from "paid and attended" a few years back to just "paid". I do believe the Sox use the turnstyle #.

QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 04:07 PM) I wonder how many of those ticket holders will be disappointed to find out that the ring ceremony is before game 2... If they don't know already they they are idiots.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:53 AM) A lot of that is because they sold areas like the PSB and the Patio as regular tickets instead of add ons. The regular season capacity is more like 39k. I believe it was the on field seating that increased the attendance #.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 11:10 AM) It's not a mile deep vertically. The miners are more than a mile into a shallow mine that runs a long way horizontally. Vertically, they are less than 200 feet from the surface. Ahhh. gotcha. This story, http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/02/mine.explosion.ap/ , "An explosion at a coal mine trapped 13 miners more than a mile underground, a county emergency official said Monday." is a bit misleading. Thanks, Jim.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jan 2, 2006 -> 09:12 PM) From what I heard, inspections turned up around 50 violations in the mine over the last 6 months. It was a shallow mine too, which believe it or not, makes these things worse because the mine is less stable when its shallow. Or so NPR told me. A mile down is considered a shallow mine..? I don't know anything about mining, but I would think that's pretty deep?

QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Jan 3, 2006 -> 10:16 AM) Incorrect, but ok. No, it's not incorrect. Most of the tickets that are not ST holders went to the Bears and the NFL and sponsors. We had the choice of not buying our tickets and were told that they would go in the ticketmaster pool. A few thousand were in that pool.