Steff

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:13 AM) I think the team's success has swelled Ozzie's ego so much that he thinks he can win with whatever crap he throws out there. Absolutely.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:13 AM) Ok, i know you don't like it, because you are close to them. I am not. but I am still entitled to my opinion as well. So we will disagree as usual and go our separate ways. I am not trying to blow off the debate, but I need to go now. It's got nothing to do with who my friends are.. I hate Willie with a passion and I'd call your bulls*** out if you said s*** about him without merit. You continually try to use the "I know they are your friends" argument.. get the f*** over it.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:12 AM) BTW, I think trading BMAC to Oakland would benefit him as well, being that he is a flyball pitcher and gives up homeruns in hitters parks, playing in Oakland could make him stud material, and I think Beane knows that. I'd bet high that Beane get's a bit stiff when he thinks of BMac pitching for the A's..

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:09 AM) If Konerko isn't hurt, and your only option is to play Timo at 1B, and you have an off day the next day.......Why does Konerko need to be rested? Its baseball, not too grueling of a sport. If it had been 90 degrees with 85% humidity the last couple of weeks maybe, but that and inserting Walker were two of the dopiest moves I have ever seen made. I bet you Konerko feels the same this morning whether he played last night or not. Me thinks Ozzie caught the tinker "bug".

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:07 AM) So let me provide some context for you. I blame this on ozzie, yesterday and today. If though, the players said they want a rest, than I say to them suck it up. I don't care if Neal's penis is falling off due to all the babes he had last night. I hope this provides better context. I hope that straightens everythign out for you. I BLAME OZZIE unless the primadonnas forced him into this situation. Apparently there are some comprehension issues for you today.. I don't need you to clear anything up.. I understand exactly what you were expressing, albeit IMO miserably doing so. My issue is you SPECIFICALLY calling out players, intended or not. I don't like it, that's my opinion, I stated it, and that's that.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:03 AM) personally I think he meant this as a joke. But you know him better than I. It was.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:03 AM) And who would be our 5th starter when (not if) Hernandez goes down again? Neal..

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:00 AM) Its not hard with those two... usually I just say "hey how about those White Sox" and it is all downhill from there. Post of the year..

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:55 AM) read the thread. but yes, I can see how you got that impression. there was and usaully is context to it. I'm reading the damn thread Terry... and I see where you laid the blame on Ozzie.. I also see where you told Neal and Paul to "suck it up"... specifically YOU said "Neal.. suck it up..", "Paul.. suck it up.." (sic). I'm not going to lay off the fact that the MANAGER maked the decisions to sit guys, barring injury, and I refuse to blame them when he does so. That's MY point and I think it's BULLs*** when someone states something differently. I can see how you got that impression :headshake

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:53 AM) and that response was typical of you. I guess I could b**** and moan back and forth and help turn yet another thread into an "all about quickman thinks".. but you do a good job of that all on your own.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:52 AM) by the way forwarning I need to leave the thread, got to get to work, but I stand by ozzie making a huge mistake. And steff if you took it another way, then so be be it. you like to pick fights and you like to be right. Must be that softer woman side of you. I took it the way you typed it.. type what you mean to say and no one will misunderstand your bulls***.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:49 AM) Steff, your doing what you always do. The princess speaks, take a look at the whole thread. And you know Now that I think of it. If the players did say they couldn't play then I blame them too. Hey steff you know all the ballplayers, what did they tell you last night? Give them a call today and let us all know. Typical of you.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:40 AM) Actually no I was blaming ozzie, if you viewed the whole thread. but if neil did go to him and say he couldn't pitch I would blame him. But my reference was that Ozzie cost them the game. i know you like the players, I am aware of that, and your very good at taking snipets and creating your own thoughts. I think I have been very consistant in this thread that Ozzie cost them the game. My point is, if they are oveer used, suck it up and play. I really don't care if paul is tired, and I don't care if Neil pitched 1 inning the other day. Suck it up. (meant toward Ozzie) Then maybe you shouldn't say the following... 2) The herald is one newspaper, but that being said I heard OZzie state on the post game show that he thought marte and Cotts were overused the last 5 days. that was his reason. Not good enough for me. You have a day off, so suck up one more damn inning neil. That is my point on that. 3) I would have never used Walker in that situation. Yes I would have called on others despite the matchup of righty lefty. I called it before walker threw his forst pitch. I stand by it. You disagree, I am ok with that. 4) Tell konerko to suck it up one more day. You have an off day today. I really don't care if Ozzie wants to rest him two days. It can't be done right now because you do not have a back up foirst baseman. Wait until gload gets back then sit Konerko down for two days. SUCK IT UP. My liking players doesn't have s*** to do with calling out your misplaced blame.. Talk about taking snipits and creating your own bulls*** thoughts.

Hmm.. Ozzie thought Neal was overused... he didn't put him in so that's Neal's fault..? Same with Konerko..? Blame the players because the manager made a decision to sit them..

QUOTE(Reddy @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 08:35 AM) what??? theres been a ton of speculation but... show me a link or something http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=56482 "With that in mind, take this latest rumor with as many grains of salt as necessary. But don’t deny it has some serious bite. The White Sox trade starting third baseman Joe Crede and top pitching prospect Brandon McCarthy to the Oakland Athletics for power-hitting, Gold Glove third baseman Eric Chavez. There’s another rumor indicating the A’s also want minor-league outfielder Brian Anderson," "And he wants out of Oakland so bad that he’s the one who apparently is fueling the trade rumor to the Sox."

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=34558

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 02:21 PM) I have heard Paulie can be quite a jag at times... You heard right.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 12:49 PM) "I signed this deal knowing i will be on a contending team, and once the A's become a non-contending team I expects to be dealt to a contender." Cmon, that doesn't sound like he wants to get out of there at all? Sounds to me like he realizes that if they don't contend they are going to scrap the team and rebuild and that with his contract what it is he'd be part of the scrapping.

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) There are only 2 parks I really want to see Safeco and Miller Park...they both look awesome. Both are awesome. I like Miller a lot.. but I like Safeco more. Probably cause I've only been there twice versus 20+ times to Miller.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 12:53 PM) Does anyone else get the feeling Ron made that whole entire thing up? Not as much as he's milking it. I would guess he had a beef with Ron on something else and tried to be a smartass in a sense. Bonds, no matter how many times I say it I know it will never be accepted by many, is not the asshole he's portrayed to be. I wish for any one of you to see him at the park and ask him for an autograph.. 9 times out of 10 he'd give it. He really does have a disposition close to Frank. Very joking, very friendly, very outspoken, very helpful, etc.. he's gotten a nasty rep just like Frank.. difference is he doesn't give a s*** and adds fuel to the fire on purpose.

Does he have a partner ortho that takes his cases when he's out of town or on vacation..? Call the service and tell them it's an emergency.. you're in pain... maybe they can call him and he'll come in..?

Gone.

I have an extra parking pass for tonight if anyone is going and wants some free parking let me know.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 10:43 AM) Half priced night is on July 4, too? Most of those exclude holidays. Monday's are half priced.. 7/4 is a Monday..

That guy on the "whitesoxstink" blog is hysterical.. "Bevington was a good manager and well liked by his peers..." Uhhh.. no. Having spent 90% of my time with the 96, 97, and 98 teams I can with confidence say that nearly every player on the team those 3 years hated his guts. Maybe with the exception of Caruso in '98 because he didn't know any better.. but by the AS Break him, Abbott, and Norton were leaders of the "Bev must go" club. That guys is a dolt.