Felix

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 09:47 AM) What would be your expectations of B-Mac in terms of ERA and WHIP if he was starting for us this season? I think he would a pretty good job for us as well (not as good as the 2nd half in 05, but still good nonetheless), but he seems really valuable in a Scott Shields type of role in that bullpen right now, which is really quite big for this team cinsidering all the question marks we had on this pen going into the season. Well, last year he had something like a 1.6 ERA in the second half (IIRC) and probably had a ~1.00 WHIP. Naturally, I highly doubt he would be able to duplicate this. I think that if he were to be a starter this year, he could possibly put up a low 3 ERA (3.20ish), along with a ~1.10 WHIP, but would be more likely to post something like a 3.55 ERA and 1.15 WHIP. I have a feeling I am exaggerating a bit (I'm a rather large BMac supporter), but I have no doubt in my mind that he would put up better numbers than Garland will on the year.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 09:21 AM) Also have to remember, Heilman would be moving from a pitcher's park at Shea to a hitter's park at U.S Cellular. He put up a 3.17 ERA so you would expect that to rise, and he wants to be starting as well. Thats a good point. I hadn't looked at Heilman's splits, but looking at them now.. well.. they're ugly. In 2005, he had a 1.62 ERA at home compared to a 5.17 ERA on the road. That could be a result of having a relatively ugly first half to the year (4.63 ERA) then having a 0.68 ERA in the second half. QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 09:21 AM) First of all we don't know how Brandon McCarthy will have done as a starter for a whole year. He's never been in that situation in the majors before, and being that it would be his first full season doing that, he would hit some bumps along the road. Remember he did have problems with the longball early on (although it was much better in the 2nd half) BMac did have issues in his first major league run in 2005, but then he went back to AAA and fixed a flaw in his pitching motion. When he came back up, he dominated (even moreso than Count). Given his age, talent, and minor league track record, I have no doubt that BMac would do well this year as a starter.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 12:45 AM) And what relievers could we have gotten for Garland? For example would you be saying a combination of B-Mac and Heilman in the pen would be better than Garland and B-Mac in the pen? I don't exactly have a list of the relievers that we could have gotten, but yes, I do think that BMac + Heilman would be a better combination than BMac + Garland, and if we traded for Heilman, we would have also been able to bolster the farm system in the same trade.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 05:49 PM) -Iguchi's double to center was as far away as you could hit that ball in Comerica and still keep it in the park (I missed the homer). I think Thome's double was further than Iguchi's, but I could be wrong

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 10:39 PM) To be honest, I don't think we could have got a better bullpen arm than what Brandon is going to do for us. I agree with that, but thats not the only thing to look at. I think that the combination of BMac starting and the reliever that could have been acquired would have been better than the combination of Garland starting and BMac in the pen.

I really like that sig. Its simple, but gets the point across

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Apr 12, 2006 -> 07:49 PM) seriously. any division rival He's such a Twins fan. Lets get him!

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 10:30 PM) Then our bullpen would be shot Thanks for reading my post QUOTE(Felix @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 09:35 PM) The Sox should have traded Garland last offseason when his trade value was at an all-time high to bolster the bullpen and make way for Brandon McCarthy in the rotation. Instead, they signed him to a rather large contract for a pitcher thats been average throughout his career (the exception being 2005). QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 10:30 PM) we would be out a solid starter. You don't think McCarthy is a solid starter? Alright.. if you say so..

The Sox should have traded Garland last offseason when his trade value was at an all-time high to bolster the bullpen and make way for Brandon McCarthy in the rotation. Instead, they signed him to a rather large contract for a pitcher thats been average throughout his career (the exception being 2005). I hope that Garland does well, and rebounds from his first two starts in 2005 fashion, but I just don't see it happening. He should rebound, yes, but I doubt it will be anywhere near as good as he was in '05. Expect his numbers to be around where they were in 2002 and 2003.

Gload. Nobody beats the Widge.

Garland sucked, but the team overcame it. A sweep is always nice Great game for the offense.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 03:23 PM) Here's the only thing I will say about Garland....I would have liked to seen him get traded just cause he had a ton of value this last offseason. Which is what I've said all along

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 03:20 PM) I'd like to see him try and steal. But if he gets caught stealing, Pods then leads off the next inning, meaning Gooch goes to the plate with one out. Its best to have Pods just get out now, and let Gooch/Thome/Konerko start with a clean slate.

QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 03:09 PM) we have the best 3-4 combo in baseball Manny Ramirez + David Ortiz Alex Rodriguez + Gary Sheffield (or whoever is hitting 4th there) Sorry, no.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 03:06 PM) What happened? Single to left. Pods overran the ball, leaving it behind and allowing the hitter go to second.

Pods..

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 03:01 PM) Shingo was 8 for 9 last year. Where you upset when he was replaced? Obviously he wasn't perfect. Come on.. get with the program!

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 02:57 PM) Oh come on, I said from the first inning he didnt have his good stuff today, it happens. If he comes out his next 2 starts and pitches well, would you say he is back to his old self? His old self is a lesser version of how he's pitching now..

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 02:53 PM) It is now a save situation with 4 innings left to go. We don't have much of a cushion anymore. Don't worry. Jenks will come in, let up a 2 run HR, but still get the save. He's perfect on the year!

So what excuses are there for Garland after todays game?

Nice double for Crede

The third base coach for Detroit should be fired.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 01:45 PM) Chat link? http://www.soxtalk.com/chat/

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 01:25 PM) The detroit radio just called Ordonez walk. that's how far behind it is. lol... MLB.tv is pretty slow too today, something like 3 or 4 pitches.

QUOTE(POPPY_HIDALGO @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 01:22 PM) Garland prefers to trick hitters into thinking he isn't very good and then he gets the job done. This guy will have a Maddux like streak of 15 win seasons in his career. He's a stud pitcher. If you honestly believe this, you are a lost cause.