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Cody Westerlund ‏@CodyWesterlund 2m2 minutes ago Forman on Rose civil case: “We understand there’s a process he’ll need to go through. Derrick’s part of our family.He has our full support."

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 02:08 PM) Technically Rose has almost no mileage on his odometer. 3 surgeries is a ton of mileage, even before you add in the minutes.

‏@670TheScore Gar Forman says Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah both feel great. Taj Gibson is ahead of schedule in recovery after ankle surgery.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 01:55 PM) Rose and Noah rewind the clock. Mirotic makes a leap. It's a lot to hope for, but it could be worse. Realistically, I can see one of those three things happening and that is Niko stepping up in his second year. Rose and Noah both have some big mileage on their odometers. At their ages and the condition of their bodies, it is pretty unrealistic to think they both can go back to being their old selves.

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 2h2 hours ago The #Mariners are expected to offer their GM job to Jerry Dipoto, per @JimBowden_ESPN

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 29m29 minutes ago Bryce Harper is being kept out of lineup today for his role in Papelbon fight, #Nats manager Matt Williams announces FOX Sports: MLB @MLBONFOX #Nats suspend Jonathan Papelbon four games for fighting with Bryce Harper --->http://foxs.pt/1h3TPr3

http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/152...uctional-league

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 12:39 PM) I think one of the biggest big picture limitations the Sox have is the location of their ballpark. It doesn't make success impossible by any stretch, but I think it is a big part of the reason that the baseline for attendance is so low. Why is that a detriment to the Sox, but not the Cubs?

QUOTE (shysocks @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 12:32 PM) Is there anybody here who wouldn't call Rodon's rookie year a resounding success? It's been really satisfying to watch. His rookie year has been pretty close to a best case scenario when you consider how long he spent in the minors and the defense he had playing behind him.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) If we can get past the Cavs in the playoffs, I am very confident we can win it all. We match up well with all of the Western Conference contenders, and we beat all of them last year. Getting past the Cavs is a pretty large problem for the Bulls. Even if that happens, you have just as big of a problem with whomever comes out of the west. I can't see the Bulls going any more than 5 games with the Spurs or the Warriors. The Regular season is one thing, the post season is another.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 12:16 PM) What do people think Alex Gordon will get? Going off of what Melky got last year, and thinking about Heyward in the $22-25 million range on the upper end, I'd go with something in the 16 to 18 million per season range. He will be 32 by opening day next year, so I would guess 5 to 6 years. My guess 6/100.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 11:28 AM) After the Bears and Sox seasons, I'm so excited to cheer for a team that has a shot!!! Plus a like a lot of the guys on the roster. Barring LeBron breaking his neck on Stefan Curry's neck, the Bulls have no real chance to win it all. They will be solid, probably in the 50 to 55 win range, and win a round or maybe two in the playoffs, but that is their realistic ceiling.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 10:46 AM) Depends on how it plays out. If we end up losing only a 2nd round pick for Heyward, I have no problem with that. The nearly $200 million will be the problem, not the draft pick.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 10:27 AM) Who from Rockford that Hawks should trade? They need those guys for depth when the current bottom 6 guys leave. The Hawks have many more question marks on this squad then they have had for years. You know some of them will flounder, making the depth in the minors even more important than usual.

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-ou...e-coming-092715

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 19m19 minutes ago Don Orsillo won't be unemployed a single day. The popular #RedSox voice will be joining the #Padres broadcast team, per @GordonEdes

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 11m11 minutes ago So Jonathan Papelbon not only played role in Ryne Sandberg's resignation with #Phillies, but also now in Matt Williams' likely #Nats firing.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 10:13 AM) oh.... i really hate to disagree. it has everything to do with perceptions. every since JR rant on tv of the fans not spending by not coming out to support the team by buy season tickets. Unless you believe that it isn't the product on the field that brings Sox fans out, but it is fancy marketing, you are wrong.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 10:04 AM) I think bottom line, what is keeping the fans away and what will continue to keep the fans away is the staid, unmoving, inability to change the approach and higher level personnel year after year, despite the same crappy results.. The Sox are 67 games and counting under .500 since late 2012, a one game improvement so far from 2014, and yet.. chance are high that the same bunch of mopes in the front office, Cooper, Ventura, etc. will all be back.. it just shows a lack of progressive thinking and stubbornness to stick to an approach that isn't working… and they wonder why people don't show up And this thread has nothing to do with any of those perceptions.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 09:40 AM) Is Derrick Rose a top 10 PG? I'm not quite sure he is anymore. Not until he shows he has the old Rose explosion, and first step.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 08:38 AM) Bulls media day is today. \I can't wait to hear that Derrick Rose is in the best shape of his life and feeling better than he has since pre-surgery!

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 09:23 AM) good point, however i don't think it for us the fans on soxtalk, but the fans of everyday fandom. i guess, and i may be a minority here, but continuing to put a better product, will show that the team is trying to improve the product on the field.... the fans will see this. i am sure of that. now will that convince the everyday fans. i really do think so. The White Sox product IS the product on the field. A guy like Boyer or McD is only selling the product he has. What exactly is McD doing that is so good, besides having a 3 time championship team to market?

QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Sep 27, 2015 -> 10:41 PM) Who the f*** does Papelbon think he is? Does he really think he's demonstrating how to be a veteran? I agree with his reason for being upset, but that's the worse possible way to show it. There's no excuse for that. I hope he apologized not only to Harper, but to the entire clubhouse for that one. He needs to apologize to the fans as well. Yes, punching the NL MVP is a great idea, even better when he is your teammate.

Are the people who are talking about McD needing to be hired really saying that they would go to more games if they marketed better, and not if the team was better?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 06:40 AM) I don't think that the stats strongly support "Adam Eaton is declining", the case is much more complicated than that. Yes, Adam Eaton's batting average is down this year and he is striking out more. However, he's also hitting the ball with much more power - hence the boost from 1 to 13 HR. If he's swinging more to drive the ball, it's not unexpected that he'll hit more fly balls than ground balls that can turn into outs, and it's not unexpected that he'll also strike out more. The end result is that he's basically been almost exactly as effective of a hitter in 2015 as he was in 2014, maybe a tiny slice better in '14 but barely. That could be a long term trend downwards - he could hit 7 HR next year and still keep the same number of Ks, or he could perhaps find an even better balance next year and actually improve as a hitter. I don't know. But that is a way he could significantly improve. His OBP is down, but his walk rate is actually up on the year. That means he's got a few less hits because of the extra strikeouts and that's about it. His defense is definitely down, but defense is one of those stats that can fluctuate a lot from year to year, so I hesitate to call that a long term trend based on one year. Also worth noting - last year at this time we were saying "if Eaton could stay healthy" because that was one of his major issues in 2014. He's actually done that, so that's a positive for him in 2015 as well. Your proposal to trade Adam Eaton for someone to fill an IF hole could be interesting except it only fills 1 hole while it opens up another. Our outfield is also the worst in baseball or maybe 2nd worst, too early in morning to look exactly where we are compared with the Phillies. If we open up another hole in the OF, we don't have anyone to fill that spot either. If you're going to get someone to make a mistake and fill several positions in the white sox lineup for him, ok you listen to that, but just looking to "fill an infield hole" is digging one hole to fill another. There is probably a decent chance these two things are related.