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Gage has officially lost it. Now is the time to stage that coup.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 11, 2015 -> 12:58 PM) http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...lary?cmpid=yhoo Given tihs is a large makeup of the forum demographics...thought you might find this article interesting. A whole lot of the younger generations have no belief in social security being much of an option by the time they retire.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 11, 2015 -> 10:40 AM) If there was any doubt about it being a homicide (or any evidence indicating it was a suicide), would they really go through with that massive public funeral and ceremony? With the way this is going down, it really feels like they are expecting backlash when the suspects are announced. Maybe someone had it out for this guy?

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 11, 2015 -> 11:50 AM) ugh, purple camera, awful mms texting issues, incredible battery drainage (I'm typically at 60% by time I get to office just from using Twitter on train) I love the speakers and audio on my M8 HTC. It does get really hot at times and go through battery in insane amounts. I like my Galaxy S5 much better overall.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 11, 2015 -> 12:11 PM) JR, RH, and KW should send his agent a case of the finest champagne after every one of these starts he stinks up the joint. On the plus side, they did try to sign him and had every intention of signing him, and they knew what he turned down, so that money should be available to be allocated somewhere else. Thankfully nothing has changed since the extension offer.

Jay Zawaski ‏@JayZawaski670 52m52 minutes ago Fontana-on-Geneva Lake, WI I'm told the salary dump deal / Kruger signing could very well happen this weekend. Perhaps even today. Trade would be pure salary dump.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 11, 2015 -> 10:48 AM) Reading about all the cheating the Pats have gotten away with over the last 15 years has really soured me on the NFL. Watched Western Kentucky-Louisiana Tech last night instead of the NFL game. Probably cutting back significantly the number of Sunday night/Monday night games I watch. How could you not tune in to either root for a rapist or the most effective cheaters in modern sports?

670 The Score ‏@670TheScore 2h2 hours ago Jeff Samardzija's durability is his top selling point in impending free agency, writes @MLBBruceLevine: http://cbsloc.al/1KaBC2k

670 The Score ‏@670TheScore 48m48 minutes ago Report: Grand jury set to reconvene soon in Patrick Kane case http://cbsloc.al/1KHfJ0Y

Agreed with the above. If they don't have an internet trail in 2015, that is a huge red flag to me.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 03:09 PM) so all that is again back to the sox org and FO. i can't stress to strongly, there are not right answer. It has been proven over and over again that a team cannot pick BPA in each round. It literally will not work.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 03:03 PM) and that comes full circle. with the little things i am concertinaing on is not the full answer. it has to go with a idea, a strategy that the org FO has to but into. the BPA..... does that really work?? last draft Cameron went in the comp pick area.... was he not the BPA somewhere in the first round??? for me and my point of view... maybe, but the sox needed alot of help and there was a criteria of pirioties that the org knows. you take the BPA per your org needs and in the later rounds, they have to do the best that they can. there is not going to be the right answer or wrong ones and when people are involve, there is always going to be different ideas. they should stick to their game plan.... and to go for it. roll the dice. esp in the first 3 rounds, for me..... now someone may think it should be 4 or 5 rnds. so who knows what ever round. some agent and player is going to play russian roulette with the slotted money.... i just hope it is not the sox. This is a complete non-answer. What else is there besides money and contract status that you are worried about negotiations over.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 02:53 PM) Greg I will bet you $5000 that Hillary does not win 95% of women voters. BET THE HOUSE!

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 02:51 PM) but even to the last draft, some posters were talking about the bpa idea. here is a question, beyond a certain round, it is all a crap shot.... so at what round should the BPA should be abandon??? Each pick is not made in isolation. What each pick is slotted for and signing for affects what you can offer to the rest of your picks. Again, take Zangnari. Because we went over slot with him as BPA, we had to take players who were not BPA and would sign underslot in later picks. It was either that or forfeit future draft picks.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 02:43 PM) and do you really believe that???? and they do have have have a sport agent to help in the contract negotiations. Tell me what else there is.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 02:33 PM) players in the first round #1 pick and the players chosen on the #15 pick in the first round.... the money is different. you can not arbitrarily use a blanket statement as the answer for all question in the draft. plus i am not talking about bonus money. You might not think you are, but yes you are. Players are no longer allowed to sign anything but a standard minor league contract. There is no negotiation beyond the bonus money.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 02:28 PM) the slotted money with bonus money is now the discussion. this conversation is really taking a life of its own. i do not know the answers for the salary cap nor do i have the answers for the CBA..... if you do, tell me, per articles and numbered sentences .... instead of using a statement to make yourself look good. this show me kind of interrogations is a little tiring. if any of us have the answers, we should be working for the baseball org. . i still maintains, take the BPA available is the way to go.... if you say that is unreasonable..... and special agreements needs to agreed to ...... so what is the difference of now vs 10 yrs ago??? by the way, you are still not answering and diverting questions asked. People have been explaining these concepts to you for pages. Past that, there is nothing anyone else can do to help you.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 02:10 PM) More examples: Let's pretend that the Sox have $9 million to spend on the draft. 1st round slot: 4.5 mil 2nd round slot: 1.8 mil 3rd round slot: 1 million 4th round: 740,000.00 and so on. If you took a player in the 3rd and he didn't sign, that's roughly $1 million that you now are not allowed to spend in this draft. It doesn't make sense. Teams have a specific amount of $$ now that they can spend on their top 10 selections. If they go over, penalties are severe. Every player drafted in rounds 11-40 has to be for $100,000 or less, otherwise the remainder goes into the pool for the top 10 selections. The other way to look at this going strictly by BPA. 1st pick is BPA and takes 6 million to sign/4.5 slot 2nd pick is BPA and takes 3 million to sign/ 1.8 slot There you have used your entire draft allotment in your first two picks. You either cannot sign anyone else in rounds 3-10 or anyone over $100k in rounds 11+, OR you can sign them but once you get more than 15% over your slot value (in this case would put you to 1.35 million additional dollars) you would lose your first round draft pick for the next TWO years AND pay a 100% tax on everything over your $9 million allotment. Again, which are you choosing to go fully BPA... losing draft picks, or not signing most of your draft?

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 01:48 PM) you asked me, now you answer why not. i am talking about the theory of the slotted draft, according to the CBA. because "without bonus money and dealing with the slotted money allowed thru the 10 rounds, a team will not blow thru their money." doesn't exist. Every team has a bonus pool based on the slot values of their relative picks. Their total number cannot go over a specific percentage over their pool before a team starts forfeiting draft picks. If a team were to pick with absolutely no regards to those picks, they would blow through their allotments way before all of their picks were signed. For example, take a look at the Sox picks this year. They went far over slot to sign Zangnari. Because of that, they had later picks which were significantly under the slot values to make their total fall under their allotted total. If they had kept picking the BPA, they would have spent WAY more than their allotment allowed them to do, and either couldn't have signed many picks to stay under the total, or they would have forfeiting future draft picks. This is reality.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 01:44 PM) you you really know what you are spouting.... without bonus money and dealing with the slotted money allowed thru the 10 rounds, a team will not blow thru their money. it is the bonus money that the team wants to use to entice a player to sign. the first 3-5 picks are really important and how ever, what the team and their people agree on the strategy to use, that is up to them. the time of avoiding all of Sctott B clients in the early rounds are gone. and agree to take that BPA This is not dealing in reality.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 01:28 PM) and that is not part of this conversation. again, you are putting restrictions on draft picks.... so in essence how is that different from a decade ago??? just using another way to phrase the sentence / question. So which are you in favor of... not being able to sign all of your draft picks, or forfeiting future draft picks for violations of the CBA's rules on draft pick bonus caps?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 01:23 PM) So, when you draft 5 plus players between rounds 11-25 that don't sign? What does that accomplish? Realistically, if you truly picked BPA without any regards for bonuses at each pick you'd blow through your draft allotment before Round 10. You might be able to get your first five picks signed under the caps. If you signed everyone, you'd quite literally be forfeiting draft picks. I am curious which strategy LDF is actually endorsing here... The lost draft picks, or the unsigned picks?

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 01:14 PM) so what have i said that has mention many times before.... i am advocating on taking the BPA regardless of agent and any salary restrictions. so with that, enlighten me on how that is the white flag mentality..... but by your own words, stop living in the past on past mistakes..... We have been for years now, while still acknowledging that the current CBA actually exists.. That is the point. Your ranted is not applicable anymore. It hasn't been for years.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 12:12 PM) evidence of what? Suicide? Suicide.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 12:17 PM) Oh, so two wrongs make a right? It's totally relevant. Pointing out a double standard when it comes to offensive speech proves how ridiculous we've become with what is/is not offensive. I guarantee you there are people out there who think Trump looks like an idiot and therefore wouldn't' vote for him. Trump is an idiot, and I won't vote him, but this is a huge double standard.