Everything posted by southsider2k5
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2015-16 NHL thread
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:03 PM) Yep, but if the Hawks win the cup again with him on the roster it will be, "SOO glad we never traded Kane," again. I'd rather not win a cup than have a rapist on my favorite team.
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Joe Jackson reinstatement request denied
QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 01:57 PM) That is such bull. Would anyone watch baseball if there was serious doubt over whether the games were fixed? Would you watch baseball again if it turned out the White Sox lost in the world series because the umpires were paid off? People certainly answered whether they would watch baseball if there were players on performance enhancers. The difference on the real "integrity of the game" is so gigantic it's not even debatable. There is a large difference in logic and motivation here. With steroids, it was all about guys trying to win. With gambling, the chances is there that someone is trying to lose. That makes a very big difference to me in terms of punishment. Someone who is purposefully trying to lose should never be allowed to play professional baseball again, period.
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Joe Jackson reinstatement request denied
QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 01:47 PM) Steroids were not even banned during Thomas's time. ANd frankly, even if they were, to pretty much everyone not making cheap points, purposely throwing a game is a completely different level than taking performance enhancers. There is a huge difference when you are changing the game so that the result is fixed. Technically they were always banned, they just weren't tested for.
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Mike Olt dfa'd by Cubs, claimed by White Sox
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 01:50 PM) Definitely. The only question with each is are they going to hit? Sometimes it's easy to say no way, sometimes you have to think something is there. On the board the other day it said Sanchez led AL rookies in doubles. Considering how long it took him to get hits, that's pretty impressive. Saladino has struggled lately, but if we judge everyone by their first few hundred plate appearances, we would be right a lot, but miss out on some really good hitters. I think Saladino's peak is somewhere around where Gordon Beckham peaked out after his rookie campaign. Tyler's time in the minors, he has put up decent numbers for a middle IF. No I don't expect Jason Kipnis type of numbers, but I can squint and see a ceiling of .280/.350/.400. Give him something like 12-15 homers per full season, along with 20ish doubles. It isn't great, but if the guy can play plus defense, he will win you some games.
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Robertson Claimed by Yankees, pulled back by WS
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) Balta has said the White Sox won't be relevant the rest of this decade. He also stated the Cubs reaching the wild card will pay all by itself for Jon Lester's bloated contract, and Balta is never wrong, just ask him. Seems like perfect motivation for going for it again. If you arrive a year too early it's worth over $150 million. Think about what it's worth if it's 3 or 4 years too early. Uh-oh, personal attack.
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The Republican Thread
I hadn't heard this story, or a rebuttal to it. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/09/01..._n_8071696.html
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Joe Jackson reinstatement request denied
Being 100% honest, I know next to nothing about the case outside of what I saw in 8 Men Out. What are you all using as source materials for what really happened?
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Mike Olt dfa'd by Cubs, claimed by White Sox
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 01:00 PM) I don't think there's any obvious reason to believe that Sanchez would be a more effective SS, offensively and defensively, than Saladino. Maybe he's a more solid bat but I'll definitely expect Tyler to be a better defender, at least if they both played SS. Both seem to have great range and instincts. I think Saladino has a MUCH better arm.
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Johnson, Montas, Brantly, & Leury Garcia recalled.
QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) Webb was added the other day. Putnam on the DL. Brad Penny is still my longshot, but I really don't care. See, that is how awesome I am at predicting.
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Johnson, Montas, Brantly, & Leury Garcia recalled.
I'd add Webb and Montas, and drop Carroll, for my prediction.
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2015-16 NHL thread
QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 11:51 AM) Devil's advocate - Let's say the girl in question is making it up. What did Kane do wrong? Have a one night stand? I'm not defending him, either. I think the way athletes and entertainers use women is pretty bad. It's also really dumb for them to put themselves in a situation where they might be accused of something by someone they don't really know. But, I don't think one night stands are uncommon in sports, so I don't see why the Hawks would have a higher standard for Kane in this regard than they would for any of his teammates. I am not looking at this as a one time incident. While this has the potential to be the worst of everything, it is one in a line of many stupid things. At best (for Kane) the girl made this up, and he was cheating on his girlfriend, putting himself into a situation to nationally embarrass his employer, every single time this case gets mentioned nationally. No one seems to be questioning whether Kane and this girl had sex, so I am going to go with that they did. Even if it is your best employee, after so long of making your business look bad, you get rid of them. Say what you want about "other teammates", but how many have had nationally covered instances of dragging the team name across the media. How many have done it multiple times. If I were Rocky Wirtz, I would love nothing more then to get good value for Patrick Kane and be done with him.
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Supreme Court to Decide Whether Gays Nationwide Can Marry
QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 10:50 AM) i wish there was some sort of clause that stated if she was unwilling to do her job based on religion, that she could be impeached. You know that whole separation of religion and state thing. If she isn't fulfilling the duties of her office, she should be able to be impeached. The problem is that it takes someone with the political willpower to do it, and most politicians are too scared for that.
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2015 MLB Catch-All Thread
Christopher Kamka @ckamka 9h9 hours ago At the time of Vin Scully's 1st Dodgers broadcast in 1950, Hank Greenberg was 5th in MLB history with 331 career HR. Now he's tied for 105th
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Joe Jackson reinstatement request denied
SportsCenter @SportsCenter 22m22 minutes ago MLB commissioner Rob Manfred denies request to reinstate Shoeless Joe Jackson. http://es.pn/1PJ1g2x
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Erik Johnson named AAA Most Valuable Pitcher 2015
Chicago White Sox @whitesox 5m5 minutes ago Congrats to Erik Johnson, who has been named the International League’s Most Valuable Pitcher! http://atmlb.com/1JK6mah
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Supreme Court to Decide Whether Gays Nationwide Can Marry
QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 09:47 AM) I understand that, but it seems like the county should have some kind of option for doing work that an elected official is refusing to do. A judge ought to have the authority to either remove and replace her, or at least give somebody the authority to issue the licenses in order to protect the county from liability. She should be impeached.
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Supreme Court to Decide Whether Gays Nationwide Can Marry
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 09:34 AM) Still defying multiple court orders and refusing to issue licenses. http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/Rowan-C...-323580981.html I have a lot more sympathy for a private business who tries to pull this, though still not a whole lot. I have zero sympathy for someone at the governmental level who does this. Governments shouldn't have religious bias, and as an employee of a government you represent that nonreligious government.
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White Sox Futility Under Williams/Hahn/Ventura
QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 09:21 AM) Yes! There are sooo many horrible position players playing. Teams are littered with guys hitting .230 I am not referring to bad baseball players here. I am referring to players with no baseball IQ. There is a difference.
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Government Shutdown on the clock thread
QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 08:47 AM) Pretty good analysis of how things are likely to play out a month from now: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-...nment-shutdown/ I think it is hilarious that someone thinks that only one political party does this.
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Johnson, Montas, Brantly, & Leury Garcia recalled.
QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 08:07 AM) It'll be interesting to see who gets called up. A lot of teams have some 40 man decisions coming, so the waiver wire could be pretty exciting soon. As the years go by, you are going to see the teams who have been loading up on signings (thinking of LAD and HOU in particular) start to have those guys hitting their 40 man roster restrictions, meaning that guys are going to get let go who should be protected. The Sox have made a living in those margins.
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White Sox Futility Under Williams/Hahn/Ventura
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 09:01 AM) If you have players that reached the major leagues but have no clue when it comes to fundamentals, you have problems other than your major league staff. A major league baseball player on day 1 should understand how the game is played. Then again, you see it all over baseball. One of the biggest problems Stalin Castro has had for all his major league career is that he is baseball stupid. And he is far from the only one. If you pay attention to the teams we play, you see it pretty much every single game, and it happens on teams who are known for their great managers.
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White Sox Futility Under Williams/Hahn/Ventura
QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 09:03 PM) It's a combination of all of the above in my opinion. All share in some of the blame. Things aren't helped when Mark Parent makes the statement (paraphrasing) that coaches shouldn't have to work on fundamentals every day with guys because "they are major leaguers..." Mark "You shouldn't have to", isn't the same as, "we don't".
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2015-16 NHL thread
If I owned the Blackhawks, I would be looking to trade Patrick Kane. Though I said the same thing years ago too, and he seemed to clean himself up for a couple of years before this latest incident. Bottom line, as an owner, the last thing in the world I want to hear is "Blackhawks star accused of ...." I would be trying to get fair value for him.
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#KennyWatch begins; aka M's fire Jack Z
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 02:46 PM) I don't think they are guaranteed, are they? If they fire him he's done getting paid, not like DFAing a player. Absolutely they are.
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Trexler named SAL pitcher of the week
K-town Intimidators @Intimidators 1h1 hour ago David Trexler named SAL Pitcher of the Week after career-high 9 K night. http://atmilb.com/1FcIPh2 @whitesox @UNFOspreys