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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 12:41 PM) If the team finishes 81-81, it'll be the perfect fan identity crisis experiment. Which is funny, because the center of even Soxtalks predictions were in the 84/85/86 wins area.

ESPN Chicago ‏@ESPNChiHawks 10m10 minutes ago Van Riemsdyk will travel with team and practice tomorrow. Quenneville said they haven't decided yet on fifth & sixth defensemen.

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 4h4 hours ago As of today, Ryan Howard still has approximately $51.7 million left on his contract through next year, including the 2017 buyout.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 12:54 PM) that whole time it was great to be a sox fan. Funny perspective. During that stretch they were in the middle of a 10 year drought for making a playoff appearance.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 12:50 PM) that will be if he would be playing ss, i am talking about 2nd base. Yeah, he wouldn't go from the worst SS in baseball defensively, to a good 2B. The same problems in his game would still exist.

Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 2h2 hours ago TV ratings for Game 7 between Blackhawks and Ducks: Chicago got a 26.6. Los Angeles? 3.9

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) Day after win: "Midseason Additions" bumped. Day after loss: "Who Can the Sox Sell" bumped. Schizotalk.com

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 42m42 minutes ago 7 qualified pitchers have ERA under 2.00 this season. Via @EliasSports: That is most such pitchers entering June in a season since 1984 (9)

Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 2m2 minutes ago Source: Eric Stults staying with #Dodgers organization by accepting outright assignment to AA Tulsa. LA gets depth they wanted in trade. #Dodgers acquired Stults from #Braves, immediately DFA'd and snuck through waivers. Hoped he'd stay in organization, and he will.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 12:01 PM) The real damage wasn't even through any official sanction but all the whispers from the buscones about the unscrupulous Sox. Which is why it took us years to rebuild our Latin American presence.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 11:38 AM) I don't expect the Twins to be this good for too much longer. The Sox are extremely fortunate not to be 20-30 or something like that. We've out-performed our base-runs expected W-L by 5 wins so far. If you look at how poorly we've hit, a record of 18-31 is almost fitting (that's our expected BaseRuns W-L). There's two things that can happen. One is our hitters like Melky and Eaton stop hitting like crap and our offense turns it around. Or those hitters continue to underperform and we play awful baseball for the rest of the year. I don't expect the Twins to make the playoffs, but them being as good as they have has really upped the level of the AL Central. Coming into this year it was 4 good teams and the Twins. Now, it is 5 solid teams, but some taking their lumps because of how good the others are.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 11:39 AM) trading for Shark, well i am having mixed feelings on that. the problem is the sox went out and spent the money, i look at it being wasted money b/c someone didn't have the ability to judge the teams talent base. my biggest rant, which i have done before, why spend the money if they didn't finish the job. wasting Semien and Bassitt. but their, sox org, problem is, what to do with Danks contract and their thought that Hector will be putting up the same numbers as in last yr... Neither of them are that good. Bassitt isn't even on a major league roster right now, and if you think Micah Johnson was a bad defender, just wait until you see Semien's 18 errors.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 11:21 AM) But then that essentially means a 6-8 year rebuilding process like the Cubs/Astros/Rays and not one in half that amount of time... What has been the difference doing it this way? We've added about 1900 fans per game this season...at the cost of 6 years of cost-controlled Marcus Semien (at the very best, a net wash). If they don't trade Samardzija this season, the impact of this trade won't even be seen or felt in the organization until 2019 or 2020. In the end, the White Sox are still going to finish in the 25-30 range for attendance, so wouldn't it have been better to hold off one more offseason before blowing all their ammunition? Chicago fans are going to pay more attention to the Bears, Bulls, Blackhawks and Cubs until the Sox have a team capable of making a deep playoff run anyway. Which is why we also hit the free agent market so hard.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 11:17 AM) there is no way the sox org got away from any penalty b/c of Widler. there had to be a self impose penalty so they could keep it out of the media. if anyone will think that no slap on the hand or harsher penalty not coming from the MLB bosses. then they are not wanting to look at it. There is way too much tin foil in that post for me. Unless they could connect back to the higher ups in the organization, there is no point in giving them a penalty. Do teams get an additional penalty when someone tests positive for steroids? No. The penalty of suspension is enough. Same thing here.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 11:13 AM) LOL. Tampa Bay is dumb: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/06/01/ber...cy-is-pathetic/ I'd be willing to bet there are more Blackhawk ex-pats in Florida then there are real life Lightning fans.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 11:13 AM) i don't know, but if i am going to use my assets, esp in the minors, i would look at catchers and / 3 b man from a team. fixing that hole now will be thru FA's. You can bet your inheritance that this is 1 and 1A on Rick's list.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 11:09 AM) We're a game over .500 since that 0-4 start. With how bad we've hit, that's actually not too bad. And the big thing that I have learned is that the AL Central may well be the best division in baseball.

In this thread I would also offer this thought. All of this is a process. You just don't change something overnight and have it work. The Sox have gone a long way towards changing their draft philosophy over the last few years corresponding with the changes to the CBA and the draft slotting, plus there has been more money than ever put into our system by the team. You may not see the full results for the better part of a decade. A lot of making results here is sucking really badly for a long period of time. It is how KC built their system. It is how the Cubs built their system. It is how Tampa built their system, and even more indicting is that their system has pretty well dried up corresponding with the time period of having a pretty good team for a decent period of time. We have started to see some of the results already, as the White Sox farm system is as highly rated as it has been in years. We are about to put another top prospect into it at the #8 pick, and there are rumors of some pretty good signings from Latin America, not to mention some of that talent is starting to filter into the lower levels of the minors. We are getting there, slowly but surely.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 10:23 AM) i still maintain that the sox put themselves in the penalty box for the Widler fiasco. staying away and not signing any players for x amount of yrs. They didn't "put themselves in the penalty box" as much as they lost all structure and frame work in Latin America. It takes a while to build and then rebuild a network like that.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 09:52 AM) better yet, any update on the injury side going in the finals. The only big injury they had is Rozeval who won't skate for months.

Comcast SportsNet ‏@CSNChicago 37m37 minutes ago Jose Abreu plans to return to @whitesox lineup tomorrow - http://bit.ly/1d7BpDZ

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 31, 2015 -> 06:13 PM) I think many would be more excited if they believed it would be enough to allow another team to assume Danks' contract. He had much longer streaks last year of solid pitching, but, even then...it wasn't enough because he slumped right around the time in mid-season when other teams would have been most interested in a starting pitching addition. Right now, it just feels like we're stuck in that "dead zone" between being competitive and being out of it. And that might be the worst place of all for a fan base, because that's when apathy sets in. People start tuning into other events or summer activities, and the Black Hawks are going to soak up all the attention in the city for the next two weeks. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2015 -> 06:03 PM) It is just sad that how many people can't enjoy anything positive, ever.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 31, 2015 -> 06:01 PM) Are you saying that you believe that John Danks is going to have a sub 4 ERA for the remainder of the season? Fans expecting any consistency out of this team will be waiting a long time. We're still, for the moment at least (CLE and SEA are tied late), in last place out of 5 teams. It is just sad that how many people can't enjoy anything positive, ever.

I can't figure out why the word "fickle" keeps coming to mind...

QUOTE (bmags @ May 31, 2015 -> 01:21 PM) Would be shocked if sox went over amount. JR does not seem to like exploiting rules like that. There would be no point in sniffing around the kid if they weren't at least thinking about it. He will sign for a multiple of the entire international draft allotment all by himself.