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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 14, 2014 -> 09:51 AM) He had one good season after 2004, that's it, then he completely fell off the map offensively. We will never know the truth, but I can't give the benefit of the doubt to anybody from that era. And this the legacy of Bud Selig in my eyes. We have about 20-25 years of baseball that we have no idea about the clarity of.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 14, 2014 -> 09:29 AM) Are we really sure about that? I know Ozuna got suspended but he also had an incredible 2006 that made me guess "maybe he started between 05/06". And yeah, people have whispered about other guys like Rowand but they never even made official lists. Was there anyone else? If nothing else, with the Red Sox winning in 04 behind Manroid and Ortiz, and testing having just started ramping up, the 05 white sox were probably the cleanest champs since maybe the early 1990s, maybe earlier. For my two cents, all I have to do is look at the baseball-wide explosion in offense as PEDS came into the game and a collapse in offense after the much higher testing levels, to know that there is a very high chance that the removal of drugs from baseball has had a profound change in the game. Seeing as the White Sox didn't lag the rest of baseball in offense, the odds are pretty good there were multiple users on the 2005 team. Odds are pretty good we will never know names, but I would say statistically it is a virtual certainty that we had some cornerstone of that team on PEDs.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 14, 2014 -> 09:46 AM) I think there is more of a tendency for this to happen when you don't live where the team you cheer for plays. I'm still a huge Bears fan, but since moving away, I notice not being constantly in the Bears incubator of water cooler talk, sports radio, local news, etc., sort of allows you to have more diverse interests. I picked up a lot of following the Houston teams when I lived down there for a few years as a kid. I follow them at a higher level than the rest of the teams in the league, but at a way lower level than any of the Chicago teams.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 14, 2014 -> 09:19 AM) Maybe thats based on your posting history *rimshot* jk /thread

Hey Caulfield, it is actually illegal to post that much of an article. You can post a short piece, and that is it.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 10:38 AM) While I agree, this also isn't like the NFL where you're pretty much forced to re-sign a player like that (as was the case with Flacco in Baltimore). If he prices himself out of their range, they'll just have to let him go. After a run like this, if they can't bring back Shields, they will have to make a real effort to replace him.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 04:17 PM) If Frank Montas turns out anything close to Bartolo Colon, and we get something resembling a solid RF (say a 50 of 80) out of Garcia, that would make it one of the best trades in White Sox team history, when you consider the contract, injury history, and agedness of Jake Peavy. That also assumes we get nothing out of Wendleken and Rodon. Great timing. http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/prospe...steal-white-sox

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 04:15 PM) Agreed that it's unrealistic to expect Danks to be tradeable currently, unless it's a painful Teahen-style riddance. Hopeful that he plays his way into tradability early next season, and that RH seizes any opportunity. The only way we trade Danks is either if the Sox pick up a ton of salary (um, lol) or bring back a bad contract in return. Tell me which of those you prefer, and then I will consider a proposal containing the idea that John Danks won't be back next as "serious". The Sox history shows the biggest possibility is that the Sox do exactly what is bolded above, as they have shown a history to do when a guy isn't a problem in the clubhouse in addition to sucking.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 04:17 PM) Everyone would have been banned for 2 weeks for any of the stuff said on the last page if this was WSI. "War, Peace, and Soxtalk, A Novel."

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 04:11 PM) Actually, it's a fairly complimentary comparison. If Frank Montas turns out anything close to Bartolo Colon, and we get something resembling a solid RF (say a 50 of 80) out of Garcia, that would make it one of the best trades in White Sox team history, when you consider the contract, injury history, and agedness of Jake Peavy. That also assumes we get nothing out of Wendleken and Rodon.

49,995 to go.

Game 3 PPD.

Apparently we are still 50,000 posts away from their total... Hey Balta, wanna talk about the next election for a while?

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QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 02:52 PM) Not at all, I understand ceilings. I get " if everything goes right". The reality is that not everything is going right. When a young player does well, their projected ceiling goes up based on performance does it not? Then why does Trayce still project such a high ceiling when he continues to struggle two levels below the majors? A player that, for now, has stalled out at AA does not project much ceiling to due the stalled developed... for now. Don't take this as my being a smart ass but... How can you give a higher ceiling to player (Trayce) that has struggled at AA than a player (Danks) that has actually made it to the MLB while admitting you doubt Trayce will ever make it to the major league level? In all honesty it makes no sense. I understand Trayce has good tools, but any tool is useless if a person cannot utilize them. Ceiling isn't based on performance. It is based on what the combination of a player realizing all of his tools to his full potential is. Just because a player has a certain ceiling, doesn't mean he will get there.

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So away from another Davidson thread disaster and back to Eaton/Santiago?

Christopher Kamka ‏@ckamka 30m30 minutes ago Matt Forte is first player in NFL with 10+ rushes & 10+ receptions in consecutive games in same season since James Wilder in 1984

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 11:40 AM) Playoff week this week. Tonite I have a 6:30 game, and if we win we keep playing. Thursday same thing, start at 7:30. Sad for softball season to end Unless it is indoors, I doubt you are playing tonight.

Chris Kuc ‏@ChrisKuc 5m5 minutes ago Defenseman Michal Rozsival is practicing with #Blackhawks.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 10:37 AM) That's a lot of spending money this offseason if true I debated posting that article, but finally decided, there was no actual information within it. It is all speculation, from the very first word being "If", all of the way to the end. We don't know that the Sox will support the same expenditures, as we know revenues were down this year. There was less advertising and less fans at the park. We don't know that they will take the money which had been allotted to the farm system and directly place them into the major league payroll. What it to stop that money from going to something else? Maybe it goes to Jeff Keppinger to finish his buyout? Maybe it goes to an upgrade inside the ballpark? Maybe it covers losses from this year? As you read that article just remember, there isn't a single new quote from Rick Hahn, Kenny Williams, and/or Jerry Reinsdorf in there.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 10:21 AM) Justin Millar @Justinmillar1 · Oct 10 #RedSox are 'early favorites' for James Shields http://sbnation.com/e/6724420 The further into the playoffs KC goes, the more pressure there will be for the Royals to re-sign Shields.

Jeff Nuich ‏@JeffNuich 13m13 minutes ago @CSNChicago was the #1 highest-rated network in the mrkt for Sat night's #Blackhawks home opener (7:30-10:15p) (4.30 rtg; 195K peak viewers)