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Can we PLEASE leave the outside agendas and sarcasm out of this thread. There is plenty of room for that in other spaces. Any subsequent posts that don't fit the theme of this thread, will be deleted.

Scott D. Merkin 29 mins · Chicago, IL · Here's one example of Paul Konerko's sharp, dry wit. I was standing in the clubhouse with Bob Beghtol three or four years ago or somewhere around there and Bob asks Konerko, "Where does Merk rank among beat writers?" Konerko thinks for a second and responds, "Second." I'm pretty happy with that answer because as anyone who has interviewed Konerko knows, he's a great quote but you have to come prepared. Bob then hits Konerko with the follow up question: "Who ranks first?" Konerko pauses, smiles and says, "Everyone else is tied." I should have seen that coming, but Konerko was a step ahead--story of his career. Good luck to a true professional, the face of the White Sox franchise and a man who really knows his movies.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 11:31 AM) And so here's where he realizes that the data presented do not support his position so instead of making a reasoned counter argument he throws out insults to everyone who isn't as good and enlightened as him and walks away. Because no one could possibly come up with a similarly silly insult back. We've actually had this discussion before, and it didn't matter what I said. So pretend to trade insults, post a lot of wingnut materials, and walk away in the same place we would have been anyway.

I had no doubt that would have thought any different. It is what we have all been conditioned to accept through centuries of panic over corporations and wealth in general.

One of my favorite personal PK favorites was the game against the Cubs where were down early something like 7 or 8 runs really early. The Cub fans just owned the park at that point. Then the Sox scored like 13 runs and won the game, and just destroyed every single Cub fan in the building and around the city.

Both fall under the same ideas. Less labor force participation and more government spending means more dependence on the government for income. There is no wealth building if you are depending on the government for your income. There is no wage growth that could outpace inflation. The more and more people who move that way, the less and less people there are who have the opportunity to accumulate wealth. Plus as government spending has become a larger and larger portion of GDP, extra spending has less and less of a stimulative effect on the economy, which is born out with the government spending more and more for recover after each subsequent recession and the recoveries being shallower and shallower. You are also balancing the economic recovery on a smaller and smaller portion of those who are working and paying taxes, meaning that their problems affect a larger and larger portion of the economy, meaning recessions will be deeper and longer to recover from.

Absolutely.

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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 10:02 AM) Plus all the players who had DL time, so they were really a 120 win team. Minimum.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 09:36 AM) I think the Tigers have another year or two, but who knows if age and weight are catching up to Miggy or if he's been banged up. Victor Martinez is not going to do this again and he may leave for greener pastures anyways. JD Martinez has been a revelation for them, but how likely is he to even come close to repeating the year he's had? There are a lot of question marks for them moving forward, you're correct. Still, I don't even worry about that. Depending on the moves made, I don't think it's unreasonable for the Sox to be a team projected to win 85 games next year prior to the season and at that level, it's only 4 or 5 breaks over the course of a year that can push you up to 90 wins. The Tigers are the team to beat in the AL Central as of today, and unless a crazy off season happens, in 2015 as well. But that gap is narrowing more and more each year.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 09:46 AM) A bullpen that could hold leads and I think we're +10 games over this season. And add back the 30 games that Robin has lost us this year... This is a 110 win team, easy.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 08:14 AM) I'd bet there is a really strong relation to workforce participation rates and government spending there.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 09:36 PM) Maybe Ackley is the guy Hahn mentioned they were close to getting at the deadline? Personally, I don't think these two are much better than what ADA and Dunn were From the way Hahn talked, I am guessing it is a big name player. Why mention if it were a retread?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 08:45 AM) I don't think we know that this is going to be a "rebuilding" year. The Sox could easily improve by another 10 games next year and that puts them right in the middle of contention. Also importantly, looking at the Tigers, they could be looking at a fair amount of slippage. If they lose Scherzer, they really can't replace him. Age may well be catching up with guys like Miguel and Verlander. Torii Hunter is a free agent.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 08:28 AM) No I don't think anyone is that high on Petricka. He's very similar to what Reed gave the White Sox though. If Hahn turned around this offseason and traded Petricka for a position player prospect, that was highly regarded with 6 years of control attached, everyone would like that deal too. At least until hindsight kicked in.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 08:04 AM) Wade Davis only has 3 saves this year, what a lousy reliever. Don't even get me started on Dellin Betances in NY, only 1 save??? Did you see Davis's blown save the other night? What a terrible conversion ratio too.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 02:44 AM) There has been a couple of posts earlier about Reed being old. People might be a little shocked to know Petricka is actually older than Reed by a few months. Reed is still 25. Where was the term "old" used?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 03:14 AM) It's like this thread is stuck on an awful repeat. Don't worry, the next standard will soon be pulled out of thin air to get it going again.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 10:46 PM) Well, you have proof of sorts that Jones would be a fine closer. I guess I'm going to have to see it to believe it in terms of racking up dozens of saves like Reed does. Nice stats, though. Addison Reed has 31 saves. I know we are only looking at advanced stats, but cmon. Petricka ain't a 31-save guy. I'll give you he's probably the best option in our crud bullpen though. Based on their stats, if Reed is a 31 save guy, Petricka is a 40 save guy.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 07:40 PM) If Sale admits he hit him on purpose, he will be suspended. It is guaranteed. He would probably miss the first few games next season. You are looking at pretty much a guaranteed six or more game suspension to make sure he misses at least one start.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 07:28 PM) Suspended? Why do you keep assuming that Sale would be suspended? Are you admitting Sale really did think Victor was getting signs from a fan with binoculars way the hell out in CF? Can't wait to see this response... With his reaction, how can you think anything but that? Why else would he have acted like he did today? He absolutely thought that and threw at Martinez in retaliation. Then he lied his ass of to the press to cover his rear end from getting suspended.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 06:51 PM) Fire is good and I like it about Sale as well. But causing a commotion and making/gesturing false accusations during a game, only to deny it after the game with some bulls*** excuse is immature as well as paranoid. No. Immature is getting yourself suspended for no good reason.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 06:18 PM) Reread my posts again. I'm calling bulls*** on Sale for denying he thought Detroit was stealing signs. Not once have I said Sale should admit to hitting Martinez on purpose and infact i agree he should not, so why are you so focused on that? Sorry but Sale is full of s*** on this one and I'm willing to bet if the roles were reversed this board would be lit up with pissed off Sox fans! It is all a part of the same story. No sign stealing, no reason to hit Martinez. Sale is lying his ass of, we all know it. In a situation like there, there is literally no good reason to tell the truth.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 05:58 PM) Here's my problem with all this. Sale becomes paranoid over a fan watching a baseball game from 400+ feet away in CF with binoculars. Really? Sale motions towards the fan in CF as the 3rd inning ends. In the 6th, Sale hits Martinez. After hitting Martinez, Sale accuses Martinez of getting signs from the person in CF while motioning that direction again. After the game Sale denies that he thought Detroit was stealing signs. Then Sale says he was motioning to a fan that was wearing him out during pre game warm up. All of this is what I call bulls*** about and why I think it was chicken s*** on Sale's part. I could respect Sale much more in all this if he just came out and said he f***ed up by thinking Detroit was stealing/receiving signs but no, he comes back with denial and a lame ass excuse. Don't get me wrong, its not like I dislike Sale at all but he does need to grow up and I hope he learns this experience. If Sale states he is throwing at Martinez for any reason, he gets a long suspension, and loses probably a weeks worth of paychecks. I call bulls*** on the fact that you wouldn't have done the same thing. It is like your wife asking if this makes her look fat. No matter what the answer really is, you know what the correct answer is.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 05:33 PM) I thought Reed had 30 saves?? Petricka is lousy. If Petricka is lousy, Reed is terrible, at least according to their 2014 stats.