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QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 05:12 PM) Supposedly Sale is now denying that he thought Detroit was stealing signs. http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseba...inez-with-pitch Sorry but I don't buy the explanation from Sale, I gotta call bulls***. Sale isn't stupid enough to say that he was throwing at Martinez, even though the whole world knows he was. Why get yourself suspended?

QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 05:05 PM) I know you don't look at stats but.... In the 2nd half last year Jones walked 2.37 guys per 9, Reed walked 4.15. Not sure how they come up with high leverage stats, but Jones walked 2.82 per 9 in high leverage situations, Reed walked 4.31. Jones K numbers were also better than Reeds... 12.08 vs 8.90 in the 2nd half....9.27 vs 7.47 in high leverage. [Meanwhile, inside greg's brain] [Does fact add up with rant?] [No] [Fact ignored] [Repeat original rant in slightly different form]

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 02:19 PM) yes, but he didnt receive the league-wide complimentary handjob on the way out That is a relatively new thing. It didn't really happen until last year with Mariano.

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 12:32 PM) Derek Jeter - 2,743 games, 119 wRC+, 73.6 fWAR Barry Larkin - 2,180 games, 118 wRC+, 67.6 fWAR Larkin's sin is that he didn't play for the Yankees, so he only got to go to the playoffs twice. The counting stats are also REALLY important for the HOF as well. Larkin has something like 1200 less hits than Jeter does. He also has a career batting average that is 15 points higher, 400 more career RBI's, 60 more career homers, etc. Barry Larkin never lead the league in any individual statistic, Jeter did multiple times. Jeter had more ASG's etc. Having seen both of their careers, I feel that there is a very large difference between the careers of Barry Larkin and Jeter. Honestly I wasn't a big fan of Larkin being a HOFer.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 11:15 AM) My galaxy 3 stopped charging so had to get a new phone. Went with the 5. Does anyone else have problems with the headphones not being recognized? I bought a case, think im going to return it because its impossible to open the charger latch when its in it, who designs this nonsense. They worked fine for me, but I am just using a cheap $5 set of headphones.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 04:35 PM) So, I like Chris Sale, and I'm obviously a White Sox fan. That said, I have to agree with Ausmus that Sale's actions were pretty weak. Whether it was stealing signs or something else, Sale's reaction was bratty and he should be more mature than that. Sending a message about cheating on the field instead of crying about it off of the field?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 10:04 AM) I never mentioned trading any of them. I just said if the trade was the other way, and Hahn got Reed for Davidson, all those saying they would still rather have Davidson would be singing a different tune. They would say he won the trade. On a board where people actually rip the manager for not using Snodgrass in a key situation, a guy who has retired 7 hitters in his career and has given up 7 runs 8 hits and 3 walks, it boggles my mind people just don't want to say it turned out that the Reed/Davidson swap didn't work outfor the White Sox. People can hold out hope, but when you hit .199 with 164 strikeouts in year 2 of AAA , you are going to be an exception if you become useful at the big league level. Then it isn't an equal comparison.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 10:06 AM) The White Sox once traded Brandon Allen for pitcher Tony Pena. Brandon Allen never did anything, hit .203 across 4 big league seasons. Technically we won that deal. I still didn't like it and still ugh at the thought of it today. And that deal was universally hated when it happened.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 09:53 AM) That is not what I wrote. I haven't seen anyone complain about the price for those guys, which is about equal to or more than what Reed will cost next season, let alone his near minimum this year. If $3 million is expensive, Addison Reed's replacement is going to be just as expensive or even more than him. To equate the Reed hypothetical to the scenario you just envisioned, we would need to be sending Davidson to another team in exchange for a statistically declining reliever making a decent relievers salary. You are the one who mentioned the three horseman of the Suck-pocalypse as some sort of equals, not me. Again, no one is trading anyone for those guys, so your scenario doesn't work outside of an opportunity to mention failed relievers as a non-sequitur.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 09:39 AM) I love Word Crimes.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 09:34 AM) This is hysterical. If Rick Hahn traded Matt Davidson and he hit .199 with 164 strikeouts in AAA for Arizona and acquired Addison Reed, the people who still say they would rather have Davidson, would not be saying that. Matt Davidson sucks. He cannot make contact against AAA pitchers. Look at all the high k guys who are at least anywhere near mediocre at the major league level and look at their k rates in AAA. Not only can't he hit, he is bad defensively. I also love the "about to become expensive" line. What, expensive like Belisario or Downs or Lindstrom? Get off it, he isn't going to be expensive unless he is lights out, and if he was lights out, it sure would look good in the White Sox bullpen. A lot better than some guy flailing away in Charlotte. Today, would you be trading prospects for Beli, Downs, or Lindstrom? Get off it indeed.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 09:04 AM) I'd rather have Reed going forward now than Davidson. Certainly didn't think that last offseason. With Reed's price tag about to go up, and coming off of a bad year, it would be tough to choose.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 09:08 AM) well according to Bernstein, it was all orchestrated by adidas and his PR, and Rose barely knows anything about it. So, thank his PR Even if that is true, the dude just signed a check for a million dollars for some kids who really need it. I'm OK with that even if it is a worst case scenario as to how and why. For how much time people spend on wife beaters and rapists, we should spend more time on the philanthropists.

I have to say, hooray for Derrick Rose! What an awesome gift.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 11:25 PM) Amen. You don't trade Alexei unless you have a replacement. As it stands, if the Sox trade Alexei and put L. Garcia at ss, you are looking at probably the worst team in Sox history. The automatic out that Garcia accounts for, does not bode well when guys like Viciedo and Flowers go into prolonged slumps. I don't care what WAR says, I'm saying if you trade Alexei and replace him with L. Garcia or Semien, you got a CERTAIN last-place team on your hands. Of course some fans don't mind finishing last. It's like it's part of the rebuilding plan. I can't even imagine a .500 team on the south side the next 10 years the way it's going now. And Anderson might not be the answer from what I've been reading about his defense. Learn some White Sox history dude. As long as this organization has a healthy Abreu and Sale, it isn't the worst anything.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 07:53 PM) I don't get the trade Alexi mentality unless it is something impossible to say no to. He seems the type of player who will get old around 42. He's one of the best SS and replacing him from the farm system will probably be another one of those deficits the Sox jinx themselves for years. He is also a guy that most likely will be willing to work out a team friendly deal to stay somewhere he obviously loves.

QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 05:07 PM) I have given up on the Sox doing much to improve their draft position over the next 6 days. At this point, I just want them to break Detroit's hearts. Again, we gain SO much more to gain by having guys like Garcia and Bassitt taking big steps forward, then we do from moving up a couple of draft spots. The one caveat I wills say is that I don't want them go finish any better than 10th worst, as it could really limit this off season.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 05:03 PM) Rumors starting about Michigan going all in to get Harbaugh. It's do far down the line, I don't even want to start thinking about the process. Jim or John?

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 04:27 PM) Yea but "innings eater" that is below replacement are at replacement isn't eating much except a s*** sandwich! If he can't post an ERA + of around 90 then what good is his 25 starts to a contender? I'd rather ship him off with cash to a team that is looking to rebuild and can maybe try and rehab some of his trade value while they do. That is a move of the goalposts to another standard. Danks is covering innings. And as SSS did point out in the article, if we had replaced Danks with Rienzo for a good chunk of those innings, that 4.8 era becomes something like 5.35. Finally no rebuilding team wants an expensive "s*** sandwich". They want prospects. Again, the only way Danks gets dealt in the real world is for a different flavor or s*** sandwich.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 04:14 PM) I just question if John is really capable of being "an innings eater" at this point. He seems more likely to be a guy that rarely gets out of the 6th inning IMO. Even if he makes 25+ starts he's not giving the pen much of a rest because he's constantly knocked out of games early. I guess he could be a decent 5th starter or maybe even a 4th if he can harness his command and control but I'd still prefer trying to move him. Don't think the Sox have room for him in the rotation if they want to contend in '15. Danks is #20 in the AL and #49 in MLB in IP.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 03:22 PM) Here's the question I must ask to those who blast Addison and still like Davidson. Simple question: If right now you could trade Davidson for Reed, would you make the trade? If they would agree to the deal right now to reverse last year's trade. I would trade Davidson for Reed right now and take my chances opening next season with Reed in the closer role. Why do we need to do this all over again? This topic has been trampled, beaten to death, and then served as a smoothie. Be like Frozen, and Let it Go.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 02:23 PM) Both ends of the spectrum between yours and Caulfields responses. I'm more in line with Caulfield . The Yanks wouldn't trade Betances for Alexei and Gary Sanchez isn't at all what he's cracked up to be . He's had discipline problems at AA and didnt hit all that well. If you want instant contender , VMart, Robertson,and BMac gives you a very strong 2015 . Try getting the Yanks to take Danks too while your at it .Even eat some salary if you think you can sign the FA's I mentioned . Heck I might trade Alexei and Danks both for Betances if I knew I could sign VMart, Robertson and BMac with Rodon and Bassitt on the horizon with the outside chance Erik Johson could bounce back. Pen fixed, rotation fixed , lineup much stronger. If you think Robertson and BMac add up to $24M /yr and lets say 2/3 yrs of VMart at $20M /yr that's $44M added to the annual payroll minus Danks salary of $14 M is only $30M added to the annual payroll for a 3 yr period maybe for each player. By the time those contracts end Rodon or Bassitt or Montas or Danish or some combination of them move into the rotation so not only do you have instant contender but a window to work the young pitchers into the rotation while still competing. Much of the trade market possibilities evaporated for John Danks with the second half he had. Unless we are getting a bad contract back, or sending a ton of money with,he isn't getting traded.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 02:30 PM) Haven't seen Ervin Santana's name thrown around very much. What do folks think about him? His ceiling is unspectacular and he'll be 32 next year. But while other teams will be hurling themselves off the peak of Mount Scherzer, some of the best deals of any offseason are for guys a couple tiers down. He's still a righty that can give you good innings. The thing that would make me nervous is his gopheritis; he gave up a lot of homers in Anaheim so bringing him to the Cell could be a mistake. I wouldn't be terribly upset if I saw the Sox had signed him for 2/$25M. Could he be had for that and would you give it to him? I would. The last thing we need to do is waste our resources on a mediocre starting pitcher.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 01:53 PM) Just throwing out some Yankees names who the Sox might like. If Robertson and McCarthy are free agents then sign them both.and VMart and the Sox are done . Closer and starting pitcher both not in the upper tier. Though McCarthy has pitched so well for the Yanks could he get a QO ? Betances was an all star this year wasn't he and Alexei is a 33 yr old SS after all . Signing Robertson and McCarthy and getting Betances would go a long way to fixing the pen and the rotation. Then just sign Vmart and fill the hole at SS however you please. Wonder what it would cost in years and money to sign all 3 of those free agents. With the control the White Sox still have over Alexei, my asking price starts at Gary Sanchez and moves on from there.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 01:55 PM) Are they still non-IHSAA? Yes, and there is zero chance that changes. They play an incredible national schedule, which wouldn't pass the IHSAA's travel rules. I have no idea what their schedule looks like this year, but it wouldn't shock me if they had a big Chicago team on the schedule.