southsider2k5

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:41 PM) Eh, it was kind of a personal statement and what he believes. Not sure why it needs to be labeled "outrageous." That's the party of tolerance at work there!

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:50 PM) That's where you're wrong. You definitely have some fans just on this website alone, so of course they'd like to see your books and see how you're doing. I totally want to see them.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:39 PM) http://www.twincities.com/twins/ci_1835466...amp;forced=true Probably a heated discussion over hunting and fishing. It's always interesting to see the Twins fan's perspective. It's not any different than Chicago. Gardenhire is not god. One person believes Mauer is trying to get Gardenhire fired. Boy Gardenhire really played the middle there. You should listen to your catcher, but you should shake him off.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:39 PM) Cause I, the paying fan, want to know how my Sox are doing? Why wouldn't they open the books? Do you plan on showing your books to everyone who wants to know how you are doing?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:29 PM) Have fun bro. The left wingers are going to be all over you here. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:31 PM) If memory serves, he was one of the ones who got really angry about this site having rules and decided to depart. Funny timing.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:32 PM) Are Balta and Southsider arguing? Dat's what I'm trying to figure out in this thread. I wish baseball would open its books to the public BTW. Why should they? The only exception I would accept is if they want public funding for a stadium or something like that. Otherwise it is nobody else's business, except MLB.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:28 PM) So...when I went after the claim that: on the NBA part, I was right, MLB nearly doubles the NBA (maybe more now that the NBA is legitimately struggling), the revenue makes up the bulk of the cash flow in both cases, and yet I'm still wrong about something? Other than it being a comparison of unequals, yes. It is like comparing Wal-Mart and the local drug store as equals.

QUOTE (FlySox87 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:25 PM) I didn't meet him. I shook his hand. In a bored college moment of "let's go and watch famous people talk", I went to a speech he was giving on campus. I was towards the front, and at the end of the speech, I moved close enough, stuck out my hand, and he shook it. And looking back on it, I find it shameful. I never supported the man. So why was I there? Why did I move up to him to be in his greeting line? Why did I act like some fawning idiot for a man I never even liked? I fell victim to the same sort of celebrity love and admiration that I claim to hate so much, and it disgusts me. And forgive me, but the burning statement was probably hyperbole. An attempt to make a strong opening statement, if you will. Would I burn it? I don't know. I'll never know, because I'll never do anything that merits this particular president sending me heartfelt correspondence. I certainly don't understand why anyone would pay $11,000 for something like that. Personally, I love Reagan (surprise!) but I wouldn't give three months pay for a personal letter he wrote to someone else. That's just silly. I am angry about this whole thing to be honest. America succumbed to the superficial charm of someone who doesn't represent her values. Someone who has spent most of his reign trying to subvert the Constitution of the United States and rule by executive fiat (how about the ICE memo to implement "prosecutorial discretion" towards illegal immigrants who have attended college or served in the military? That's the DREAM Act, something long rejected by Congress. Or his far expanded use of czars not approved by the Senate). Someone who bows to our enemies (the Saudi King, for one) and tries to apologize for our status as the greatest nation on Earth (the New Beginning speech in Cairo and his speech to the UN Assembly apologizing for our "arrogance"). Someone who insults swaths of the American public (the "bitter clingers" quote and his recent gaffe by confusing Medal of Honor winners SFC Monti and SSG Giunta). This behavior disappoints me. We deserve better. Have fun bro. The left wingers are going to be all over you here.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:24 PM) In what sense is the cash flow for the NBA greater than for MLB? Its not, and it isn't going to be. That's why comparing the two is a terrible show.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:19 PM) Tell that to the person who brought them up. Accounting 101 cash flows/= revenue.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:16 PM) Huh? The NFL is a cash cow, granted, but MLB is a solid 2nd place in total revenues. It blows the NBA out of the water. The NBA doesn't publicly admit its revenues, but a simple estimate suggests it's somewhere near $2 billion, while MLB topped $7 billion last year. And although attendance is down, advertising and cable revenues, especially local franchise revenues, are soaring. Revenues are a terrible comparison of viability when comparing leagues.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:09 PM) If you see those two cases as the same then there's really no point in discussing it. Oh wait, you weren't trying to discuss anything anyway. I think you were trying to be clever. Sorry, missed that.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:00 PM) And the only one that you can legitimately argue is because of guaranteed contracts, or Hell, even that they're in trouble because of anything baseball-related is Texas. Well all except for the 10 or so teams that don't give out real contracts.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 12:44 PM) Did I say that? I think I pretty much said the exact opposite. Allow me to repeat. Their financial situation would be fine if they hadn't taken a whole lot of team money and invested it with a guy who was producing 10% growth on their investment every year. The Mets financial system is a disaster...because they invested team funds with a Ponzi scheme. Like I said, there are plenty of teams in MLB that are a financial mess.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 12:38 PM) I hear it's in Scottsdale, right? I thought it was Paulsdale by now/

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 12:23 PM) And lumping in the Mets with "Teams having financial difficulties due to guaranteed contracts" is kinda silly. The Mets would have had no problem making payroll, they just built a fancy new ballpark, but they took the payrolls for a bunch of guys and invested them with this dude who gave them 10% returns every year. That way, they were making a fortune for themselves every time they could get a contract with some deferred money. And Pittsburgh is over .500 this year. The Mets financial situation isn't fine.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 12:19 PM) And one of those bankrupt teams wound up with a World Series appearance and a huge revenue infusion last year. And we still haven't counted the Mets yet, nor some of the small revenue teams.

Good for you Shack!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 12:14 PM) Never know unless you try, right? If you are Minnesota, yes you know.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 12:11 PM) MLB's financial situation is fine, really better than any other major sport, and the Dodgers problems have absolutely nothing to do with the existence of guaranteed contracts. If the Dodgers payroll was half of what it was, they'd still be in bankruptcy, the McCourts would just own more houses. MLB has just had 10% of the league go through bankruptcy. I don't know how that is fine.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 12:10 PM) Unfortunately real changes need to be made to MLB. Who would have thought 30 years ago someone would say the Dodgers would be bankrupt? They need to find an alternative to guaranteed contracts. Who would have thought the Dodgers would be broke 30 months ago? This is as impressive of a hatchet job as I have seen in a long time.

Apparently Kahn tried hiring away Coach K. You know the same guy that wouldn't take a massive contract and Kobe Bryant in his prime?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 11:43 AM) Would people pay for a Bush autograph? See what I mean?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 10:45 AM) On a Friday or Saturday, I agree. But during the week those don't suit my 6 AM 5 am wake up call very well. I agree fully.

This deserves its own topic. Great to see a high pick moving through the system nicely.