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Another way of looking at it... BenBadler A few folks asked what an equivalent package from TEX would be. My response: Andrus, Scheppers, Borbon, Erlin

Just think, if the Pirates do anything, the Cubs could finish last in that division.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 19, 2010 -> 01:25 PM) The Bulls would take him. The speculation on the radio was that could be place #1 to send him. They just have to figure out a way to match up money.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 19, 2010 -> 01:09 PM) I'm going to try to come. Just look for a good-looking black dude with a backwards Sox cap on, You'll be sitting next to him?

More interesting tweets... SI_JonHeyman greinke told #royals he wouldnt mind going to #yankees days ago, tho family members had reservations. deal never close w/ nyy tho. SI_JonHeyman #royals had been talking about getting rhp drew storen, ss daniel espinosa, others from #nats. but greinke said no to washington

Funny, because its true. jasoncollette jasoncollette Yuni Betancourt has reached more tweets today than he has bases in his career

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 18, 2010 -> 11:22 PM) According to fangraphs, here are his numbers in low, medium, and high leverage situations.... low - 3.80 K/BB, .271 AVG, 1.30 WHIP, 2.54 xFIP med-2.13 K/BB, .311 AVG, 1.88 WHIP, 3.78 xFIP high-5.00 K/BB, .227 AVG, 1.09 WHIP, 1.90 xFIP So as a set up man, which category is he going to be seeing teh most?

This deal makes me smile. The Yankees lose, and the Cubs road gets harder. What's not to like?

So does anyone out there have, or have had, a TrailBlazer or a Vue? Let's hear comments if you have!

QUOTE (WCSox @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 11:36 PM) He compared favorably for a while... 2006: 0.776 WHIP, 517 ERA+ 2007: 0.771 WHIP, 257 ERA+ Two years, versus what 15 or so for Mo?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 08:34 PM) Hard to laugh at Hendry for this one considering we were right there offering the same contract basically. Just got lucky Fukudome wanted to play for a team that had never had a Japanese player before. Well that and we weren't going to play him in the position he wanted play.

jcrasnick The Giants and Cubs discussed a Rowand-for-Fukudome trade, said a BB source. A classic bad-contract, change-of-scenery deal.

Well here is the Yankees big chance. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Zack-Gr...es-agent-121710

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 06:43 PM) The point is that Jenks did not fit into the White Sox' plan because of many factors. I don't think it was just a result of their opinion of him as a pitcher, but rather, the general market value of pitchers with closing experience, their current financial situation, his value on the trade market, as well as what they thought of his skill level today. It's not as if they have swollen coffers and just decided to let him walk away. The financial situation one doesn't fit if you believe contention that the Sox had something like $7.5 million in offers out at the sametime to both Wood and Crain. If the Sox really believed in Jenks, they could have offered him the $6 million that Boston did, and made it publicly known that they tried to keep him. They could have even offered him a little less as a "hometown discount" and still made the contention of trying to keep him, if their opinion was he was worth keeping.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 06:17 PM) Money in the range of $6 million? It's not my belief that they have any intention of offering any relief pitcher that much money, let alone Wood or Jenks. As for offering him arbitration, he could have been awarded something around $8 million, and then what? I'm not sure they were certain there were any takers at that price. In fact, it's pretty evident there would not have been, considering he just signed for $6 million. What you're arguing is someone would have been willing to pay $8 million and give up players for him? I think that would have been a huge risk, one certainly the Sox were not willing to take. That's the whole point.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 06:10 PM) Ahh, that was not my understanding of it. I think they would have had interest in $3 million or so, which certainly speaks volumes as to their opinion of him, but is also a product of their financial situation right now. Had he been lights-out last season, I think we would still be looking at him in a Red Sox uniform this season, whether because we non-tendered him or because we signed him and then traded him to get a few warm bodies back. The money was there is you believe that the Sox had an offer to Wood that wasn't mutually exclusive to Crain's. If the Sox thought he was really worth any kind of a contract, they would have held on to him and traded him for sure. They would have offered arbit at least.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 05:55 PM) They really had no other choice. They had to non-tender him or pay him in the range of $7-8 million dollars next year. The two parties did agree to speak again once Bobby went through the free agency process, but the idea in Jenks' camp that he was worth $7-8 million, and the fact that he got $6 million from Boston pretty much prevented that from happening. They agreed to speak, and the Sox had no interest even a way reduced rate. That is telling to me.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 05:34 PM) And yet, despite all that, when you're watching his fastball on TV, it looks about the same speed as Shingo's. I can't figure that part out. Which is why I think the Sox kept trying to give him pitches with movement to go off. They also walked away completely from Jenks. Those are two pretty big indictments of where they think Bobby is.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 04:29 PM) I would imagine nothing more than a couple million guaranteed. That would be my guess too, but this is the Yankees we are talking about.

QUOTE (IChaseBlackWood @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 12:19 PM) Whichever burger joint commercial it is that has the guy at the end who says "I made a seal, arr arr". I change the channel the second I see it. (I wanna say Wendy's) I just saw that one today, it was horrible.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 04:16 PM) he's a veteran pitcher, likely he and his agent are in no rush to get him signed... he won't get crazy money, but the longer he waits, even it's on the eve or first week or two of ST, he'll have more interested teams likely. That hasn't really worked the last couple of years. The longer the non-big name guys waited, the smaller their offers got.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 03:02 PM) Supposedly the Yankees are interested. Any idea what kind of terms?

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 02:43 PM) Just sign him and Freddy (hopefully for a discount), and call it an offseason. Has anyone seen anything about Freddy so far? I am curious where his price is after last year.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 01:43 PM) Quentin was praised in the chat for that. We loved it. I am glad to hear that. To me it was a play that if had happened against us, would have had everyone screaming about it being a dirty play. There was no doubt in my mind it was Carlos's way of evening up the score for the HBP.