southsider2k5

QUOTE (SuperSteve @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 07:53 PM) I'm not patient enough!! Here is the first place you will find it. http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/future-sox/

Pigeons?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 05:50 PM) I know when Maggs left, but if the Sox won it all in 2004 you wouldn't have said didly about getting something for Magglio. Besides, the Sox got crap for him. No players, no draft picks and somehow still managed to win the WS. If I was in charge, and Danks said no way he's re-signing, I'm still rolling the dice with him unless its a deal you just can't say no. Why not let their best pitcher leave, and grab the draft picks? Why do the White Sox have to operate like a second division team? Then you can use the money you would have allocated to him on other parts, so ie, you get 2 draft picks plus some established players plus 2 more years of John Danks in the rotation pitching for a payday. Not a bad deal at all. So who did the Sox draft after Magglio left, and how did they outweigh what they could have gotten for him pre-injury? The premise of "if they win in 2004" is the whole point. They didn't win. And at the end of the day the Sox aren't operating like a "second division" team. They have been consistently at the top third of ML payrolls. But that doesn't mean they still don't have salary considerations. We as an organization still have to make decisions that not only involve talent, but dollars.

Now you are talking

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 04:19 PM) The sad thing is, based on the arm alone, he is top five prospect for us. actually looking at the list, he could be #2 with some argument.

The sad thing is, based on the arm alone, he is top five prospect for us.

Do they not go to the #2 bid and negotiate with them? That is bizare.

Any scouting report?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 02:02 PM) Whoopi Goldberg once had sex. That doesn't mean I'm gonna touch her. You should be banned just for the visual that came with that post.

Liking meth is a scary thing.

Who wins in the AL?

Uh-oh. I think you made the thread mad.

Stop talking bad about the thread!

If Brandon wants to come back here at all, the most I would do is offer him a minor league deal with an invite to spring training. I sure wouldn't clear a spot out of our rotation just for him. I'd with with Sale first, and then Pena before I would count on Bmac.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 11:10 AM) Didn't McCarthy burn a few bridges on his way out of town when he was traded to the Rangers? Maybe a return to Coop can get him back in some form. He'd be alright for a project, but I wouldn't expect to get anything out of him. IIRC, it was actually the other way around. I believe it was Ozzie who had something to say about who he hung around with and what his late night habits were.

Quite easy you might say.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 10:35 AM) Wow. RIP. Wonder what happened to the parents. They must be in an awful state right now. As the parent of a two and five year old, that was my first thought.

Now the perverts on the other hand all want jobs at the TSA

left-handed pitching!

John Danks might enjoy it too!

Hey that is a great idea. I might try that next time.

Fine, you fly in lightning and see where you get!

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 09:15 AM) You say this as though we do nothing right now. We've got a number of security procedures and precautions in place to prevent an attack. Nothing is going to guarantee safety, so there's a tipping point somewhere, and I'm arguing we've reached it. A seven year old boy getting strip searched in front of hundreds of people JUST TO GET ON A f***ING PLANE. That's ridiculous. No disrespect to the families of 9/11, but I'll take the one in however many million chance of a plane blowing up because a terrorist gets through with some homemade devise than subject our entire country to an SS-level security process. And I know the response will be "well thanks for choosing that for me." But I just don't get how we've gotten to the point where in air-travel ANY measure of security is ok and necessary, but there's not a demand to protect buildings or whatever to the same degree. There's been one Oklahoma City bombing. There's been one 9/11. One has reasonable security, the other has gotten out of control. “Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” - Benjamin Franklin To me the line isn't some random compilation of odds and statistics. The line is where it is legally. If you cross the line legally, that is where I stop. It is disrespectful to the value of people's lives to draw some arbitrary line based on what we do already. That is the exact backwards thinking that allows a 9-11 to happen.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 21, 2010 -> 11:34 PM) Offering Putz arbitration has no downside. It's definitely going to happen. Konerko is pretty much in the same boat. AJ is a good shot as well, especially after Buck received a 3yr/16 million contract. I don't see much downside in having 1 more year of AJ at market value or receiving draft picks if he declines. I can't see us not offering JJ arbit.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 05:37 AM) If Maggs didn't get hurt and the Sox won a championship with him, I'm sure everyone would be happy they didn't trade him for prospects 2 years before he became a free agent and just kept him. No one is complaining they didn't trade Konerko. If the Sox didn't take him all the way to the end of his contract in 2005, the possibility of no WS championship is pretty strong. The Sox let their best offensive player leave, and they still won a title without him. That isn't an "if". He wasn't there in 2005. He left after 2004. Even the post injury 2005 numbers he put up were the worse of any year he has had all of the way back to his second year in the league. Even his most recent years weren't as bad as his 2005 with Detroit.