Everything posted by southsider2k5
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perfect article to generate debate about Ozzie Ball
QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 03:40 PM) Oooohhhh...I see. So because players aren't getting on base, we aren't scoring runs... And I thought it was because they can't hit with RISP...at least that's what I've seen. Really its both. We are batting .212 with RISP, which is forth lowest in MLB. We also have 128 ABs with RISP, which is ahead of only Clevelands 125.
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Pods
QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 02:11 PM) Well, there are a lot of Pierre backers out there. I guess you enjoy watching him play. Good deal for you. Bad for those of us who think he is no good. I can't believe people think Pods is something special.
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What would you be willing to give Danks to extend
QUOTE (WCSox @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 01:49 PM) Didn't Danks reject a deal similar to the one that the Sox gave Floyd? Those "tea leaves" seem to suggest that he wants to test free agency. I'm all for offering him an extension, but there's ample evidence suggesting that he's not looking for one in the foreseeable future. Supposedly the exact same deal that Floyd signed was offered to Danks as well.
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White Sox - Cubs Trophy.
Its money for the team. Whatever.
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2010 MLB Catch-All Thread
QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 11:56 AM) Another little tidbit apart from Willie Harris batting 3rd the other night. Ross Gload led off for the Phils yesterday. That Phillies line up proves that either other world series winning managers are crazy, or Ozzie isn't as stupid as people think.
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Blocked prospects...
QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 08:59 AM) Chris Davis has been given the starting job two straight Aprils, and has turned that into a trip down to AAA both times. In the best place in the world to hit in April and May...
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What would you be willing to give Danks to extend
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 11:47 AM) SS, the longer we wait, the higher the price tag...every start, he becomes more and more expensive to retain in the future. Just like Andruw Jones...but we'll worry about that bridge being crossed in August/September undoubtedly. Combine that with uncertainty over Peavy/Floyd and Mark Buehrle's pronouncements you ABSOLUTELY have to keep him, like the Twins did with Mauer, although I'm not going to say they are quite equal...Mauer's a once a generation hitter....Danks is one of the top 3-4 lefties in all of baseball, but you get the point. And yes, there's a extra 10-20% premium because of his age and being left-handed and not a soft-tosser by any stretch of the imagination when he's on. We have no idea what Danks is looking for at this point. We don't even know if he wants to sign an extension. For all we know he wants to test the free agent market.
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Catch All Anything Thread
Dilated eyes suck.
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AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!
QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 10:24 AM) I know but Thorton was warming in the pen and it was not soft toss. I am not sure why he was throwing but Linebrink and Pena were up in 6th and 7th to get their work in. Thornton was warming to come into the game. They didn't want him to, but they also wanted to win that game. If Bobby gave up the tying run, Thornton would have been in.
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What's wrong with Jake Peavy?
QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 10:20 AM) Tidbit heard this morning when Stone was on the Score: Peavy's last start was trying to use a release point he used before in 07 and before. He had dropped down a shade which allowed for more velocity, but probably reeked havoc on his control. It may take him a start or so to get that release point down. If it is something they are trying to do to keep the guy healthy, more power to them.
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AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!
QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 08:55 AM) Couple of things. Because of the off day, many RP were throwing in the pen to get work in. Thorton was one of them. He was throwing in the 9th and ready to go. The thing about Jenks, Byrnes was not swinging until he had two strikes. The pitch to Kotchman had great movement unfortunatly he did not get it inside enough and it broke out over the plate. Rios needed to catch the ball in center he seems to be aware of he wall. Danks is the White Sox best pitcher. Will Greg Walker get any credit for the work he did with Rios if he has a year to match his salary? Actually it was the opposite in his case. Ozzie said after Matt went 2.1 on Friday that he wasn't pitching Saturday, and didn't want him to pitch on Sunday either if he could help it.
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The environment thread
QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 08:21 AM) LOL First, I've been part of this "movement" since I was a kid. Not going to suddenly shift to some other fashion in 10 years. Second, this "movement" has resulted in a lot of positives the past few decades already, and it isn't going anywhere any time soon. Third, you've seen enough of my posts to know that I know the difference between an "environmentalist" (the ones who think its environmentally solid to drive their Humvee because they bought carbon credits), and "conservationists" who actually understand their impact on the world. If I have learned anything from the Tea Party it is that there is no such thing as distinctions in movements. If I am for smaller government, I am for the elimination of entire races. The same way with the environmental movement, if you are for this, you are for the firebombing of car dealerships and the attacking of people for any kind of violations of mother earth. You are obviously in favor of all of that.
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Pods
QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 10:50 PM) I don't see how anybody who is a fan of baseball would rather see Juan Pierre in our lineup than Pods. Doesn't the eye test count for something? Doesn't it pain you to watch Juan bat as it pains me? Pods is a better hitter. He just is, sabermetrics be darned. Between the brutal amount of pick offs and misplays in the OF, Pods doesn't exactly shine at the eyetest either.
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HAWKS WIN! HAWKS WIN THE STANLEY CUP!!
QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 01:27 AM) I think Keith might have lost the Norris Trophy with his poor play after the Olympics. He was the clear leader for it before the Olympics though IMO, so he still has a shot, but I think Drew Doughty might pull it out. As for Hossa, I think you could argue he should get a 1 game suspension, but it's not a tragic mistake to give him no suspension. The Predators have nobody to blame but themselves anyways, it took an absolutely epic gag job by them to not only give up a short handed goal to tie the game in the last minute, but then not score for a 4 minute power play in OT and lose almost immediately after that. As exciting and fun as that victory was, Nashville had the Hawks on the ropes in the game and series Saturday and just blew it. Most championship teams have a shocking victory or two on their way to glory though, and lets hope that was an example of such for the Hawks this weekend. 0-21 on the PP. Nashville should look no further than themselves.
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April Catch All White Sox Thread
QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 10:14 PM) Is it better for us if SD decides to trade Adrian Gonzalez soon? or later in the year? I would think later. If SD keeps winning that allows (1) Boston to have to turn elsewhere before their season goes to pot (2) allows Jared Mitchell perhaps to get healthy by the very end of the year and prove his value to teams once again (3) allows another Sox prospect to potentially step up his value and get into the trade conversation(Morel?) Forget about Mitchell for now. They are not going to push this kid back to play after the injury he had. Even if he can get back to playing, he isn't going to have value to another organization until he proves healthy for a significant period of time.
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GT: SEA @ CWS, 4/25, 1:05pm
QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 09:34 PM) So now it is only appropriate to discuss something when something actually does go wrong as opposed to when it just almost goes wrong? Apparently only when you aren't the one being questioned.
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GT: SEA @ CWS, 4/25, 1:05pm
QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 09:33 PM) This is like arguing about Brad Lidge and his 41/41 save year in 08. It's clear that guys like Rivera had better years than Lidge, who clearly got bigger leads and allowed far more runners on base, but got away with it. The thing some of us are trying to say is that as a reliever, you can't be putting people on base then working around it all the time. I don't remember the last time Bobby had a 1-2-3 inning. He's playing with fire and it burned him yesterday and it will burn him down the road. He did exactly what you said he should do, and you are still b****ing about it. Really?
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GT: SEA @ CWS, 4/25, 1:05pm
QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 09:31 PM) So...? If Bobby can only pitch in save situations, then there's something wrong with him. So everything you mentioned wasn't true. It wasn't a save situation. Jenks didn't throw junk. Jenks didn't blow the game.
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GT: SEA @ CWS, 4/25, 1:05pm
QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 09:28 PM) What the hell does it matter? Is it not more important for guys to get outs in close and late situations than whether or not the situation is termed a certain way or counts statistically a certain way? Great question. Jenks closed the game and got the save, yet here everyone is questioning it and parsing it apart. What the hell does it matter?
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AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!
QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 09:28 PM) The thing is, our offense is still playing about as badly as possible. We could easily be 4-15 right now, etc. I'll take 3 games under .500 considering how much has gone wrong. I'm thrilled with the weekend sweep, and it's nice to have some excitement and energy with the team. And we could easily be 15-4 if our hitters had been even near their career norms. God people, enjoy yourselves when times are good.
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AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!
QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 09:26 PM) It's funny. But Greg has a point. I've never been less impressed with a 3-game sweep by the Sox in almost 20 years (yes, I know I can't recall every sweep of the last 20 years). But you get the point. I just don't feel like we're playing any better now than we were before Friday. BUT I'll take the wins anyway we can get them. And if we had been on the Seattle end of it people would be screaming about not accepting moral victories.
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AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!
QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 08:26 PM) Worst. Sweep. Ever. No joke. Why follow a team if you can't even enjoy a sweep? I'll never understand looking for the lightning bolt in a rainbow.
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GT: SEA @ CWS, 4/25, 1:05pm
QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 09:19 PM) Well, it happened yesterday didn't it? Bobby's grown a fascination for junk pitches. Once he gets two outs, he starts messing around. Just throw your good fastball with your curve and close the game out, seriously. He's been pretty good about getting the first two outs in almost all his save situations. But when it comes to that third out, he just can't get it sometimes. Except yesterday wasn't a save situation...
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GT: SEA @ CWS, 4/25, 1:05pm
QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 07:57 PM) Because when you have the most dominating left hander in baseball in your bullpen, you use him to blow away a 40 year old left handed hitter. This was the same guy Jenks walked yesterday. It was a good thing Ozzie went to him and said, no junk, just fastballs. If he didn't, we might be fuming at the fact that we lost this game. They also made it pretty clear they didn't want to use Matt again if they didn't have to because of the extended outing the other day. At the end of things you have to have multiple guys in your pen. If Thornton is going to be counted on to do everything, we aren't winning a damned thing anyway. Jenks learned his lesson and did what he needed to do in the situation.
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How many times have you been banned at WSI?
QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 06:02 PM) I think that mine is Yahoo on there. They don't allow free ones anymore.