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Glad to know that 2020 didn't suffer from injuries at all.

How about those winning percentages? I guess you are going to ignore that Ricky got it done against far superior competition in both Cleveland and Minny as compared to this year, and that Tony has seen his team perform less and less each season, with as you said, a not very good team? I know you want to misdirect by including what the rest of baseball was doing two years ago, instead of what the Sox are doing now, but again that is kind of the point. A better equipped team, is doing worse each season, with worse competition under this manager. Then after he steps away, the team looks like it did before he got here. Runs scored are up, homers are up, and the team is winning.

Maybe if he stays away a little longer.

If only we had some sort of a group of people who were professionally paid to follow this team, and maybe even had access to ask these types of questions of this organization. A fantasy, I know.

Remind me what seed we are this year?

I will cling to facts, you keep clinging to Tony. If your argument is that the 2020 team wasn't very good with a mediocre manager, yet got to the playoffs, what does it say about Tony who is failing with a better team in 2022?

Hopefully you realize that makes the case for Tony as an inferior manager even more clear, but probably not. If Ricky could taken an inferior team to the playoffs with a winning percentage that Tony has never been able to approach with a deeper roster, that just means Tony is a bigger flop. It means the talent has been there all along, and even a mediocre manager in RR could unlock it, yet Tony can't. But details.

That's kind of the point. Even if you want to take out the position player stuff, all of the sudden, this looks like the team we have waited 130 games for.

Or the ass isn't around...

If someone could put together the runs per game and HR/G before and after Tony, I would love to see it.

Tony was handed a playoff team and turned it into a .500 team with it getting worse the longer he had been here. I know the Rick Hahn slight of hand is a way to protect Tony, but if Tony was literally anywhere else in baseball, he would have been fired already. Protect Britney all you like, but the results speak for themselves, as does Tony being mocked by the baseball world.

It's too bad that we have a leashed media in the city, because there is a story there. NO ONE in this organization is willing to stand in front of a camera and talk about Tony. It's just bizarre. Though the old saying about saying nothing still saying a lot comes to mind.

He is the biggest change to a playoff team. Then he leaves and everything gets better instantly.

This is what you have? I guess you can't actually defend the job performance of Tony, so I guess that's what's left.

The team that he got to the playoffs before Tony got here and was expected to blow away the division and go to the playoffs for the third year in a row? That one? Sure. I am sure Tony had nothing to do with the team self-destructing.

These two posts belong together. This team has been disinterested garbage for the last 200 games with Tony running it. They have barely been .500, and have played disinterested and fundamentally garbage baseball. The jump in energy in the last week is shocking after seeing the previous year and a half. Tony LaRussa has been an unmitigated disaster for the Chicago White Sox. Literally every worst case scenario possible has happened in the last two seasons under his watch.

Boost in what? Their BAC?

Tim's fWAR per game is 0.0253 this season. Elvis's is 0.0193. Andrus is putting up fWAR at 76% of the rate of Tim Anderson this season. Look, I get some people are caught up in the show and their feelings about Tim Anderson. But without getting into the sillier aspects of why some people do not like Tim Anderson, but the facts are incredibly clear. Even through the injuries and the off season problems, Tim Anderson is better this season, he has been better for the last 5 seasons, and the odds are incredibly high that Tim will be better next year than Elvis Andrus.

Just like the team.

This is exactly why I refused to get excited.

It could be interesting to them if we were willing to kick in some of the young pitching.

This would be the most 2022 thing ever.