Dick Allen

It's not like Garcia will be ready to go in a week or 2. I can't imagine he can play before September.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 09:24 PM) What other team would put up with a streak like that? He was leading the league in hitting at one point.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 09:06 PM) Flowers another quality at bat. 9 for his last 102 with 49 strikeouts. I don't remember a position player with a streak so bad.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 01:28 PM) If you are Jerry Reinsdorf and you are attending a wedding last weekend and you are being asked about Melo. Do you tell the truth? Lie on purpose? Or simply say don't know? These days, if he didn't totally know you, I would venture he would say I don't know. Before the internet, my dad knows Jerry Vaniesi, he was the Bears GM, and he would tell them stuff when playing cards, like how right after they won the Super Bowl they offered TB McMahon and their #1 which I think was Neal Anderson for the #1 so they could draft Vinnie. I also went to a spring training game in Fort Lauderdale almost 30 years ago, White Sox vs. Yankees, and Roland Hemond sat next to us. He was telling us all sorts of things, like how the Sox had a trade worked out for Doug DeCinces but the doctors said his back was too messed up so they wound up passing. I think these days, both would probably be a little more careful.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 01:02 PM) Jordan Danks is pretty clearly not a replacement for anyone. Maybe for Jake at State Farm.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 12:35 PM) Has he conquered the International League? Perhaps not. The facts are he was 18% more productive than the average hitter in the PCL last year and then he went up and played a month in the bigs in which he appeared plenty prepared as well. Everything about this season screams "external factors" and that now appears to be the case as he is figuring things out. I continue to think as I did before the season that the next logical step in his development is to play in the big leagues. Does that mean that he can't continue development in AAA? No. You can get better at baseball anywhere. Dealing with this adversity has already paid off, if you believe some of the things he's been saying. This is why we have league-adjusted statistics. The average hitter in the PCL isn't going to be a starter in the major leagues. He did well in Reno, but their team put up .283/.342/.428.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 12:11 PM) Oh come on. You are taking one partial sentence from his post where he obviously meant something else and then turning into a parade of horribles. This is not discussion. What else did he mean? He said the guy already conquered AAA, he is just in a slump. He said he is so advanced he cannot develop anymore at the minor league level.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:41 AM) Ding ding ding. I don't see his start to the year as a logical part of his development and I think what we've seen lately is more like the real guy. Remember, Jared Mitchell hadn't been productive with a serviceable contact rate in AAA and MLB before he was promoted. Davidson has conquered every minor league level. It isn't a matter of his development at this point, but rather whether he has snapped out of his slump. So a guy on July 8th hitting .200 with 101 strikeouts has conquered AAA. I realize the Sox minor league system has been weak, but this shows just how bad it is.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:09 AM) If you accept that the start of this season was an aberration for him and his June performance, which is much more in line with his career numbers, is him, then I would start being willing to see him up in August. Depends on what he does for July of course. And his June numbers still are pretty similar to the year Mitchell had in AA when he was supposedly "rushed" to AAA. Davidson should finish out the minor league season, then see if he is worthy of a September call up.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 09:25 PM) If Conor goes down, a large part of me wants Davidson up. However, I can imagine they might want to let him keep working down there since he's just started to turn around. I have the most interest otherwise in seeing Carlos Sanchez. He is not getting much love despite doing pretty well at a level where he remains one of the youngest players at a premium position and now showing flashes of power Check out Zaleski's stats So in one thread you blast the White Sox for "rushing" Mitchell, mentioning his k-rate. Davidson has a 31% k-rate and a .200 batting average and you want to see him up. This doesn't make any sense.

Q is a good pitcher who is signed for way below market rate for the forseeable future. If someone isn't willing to drastically overpay, there is zero reason to trade him.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 08:22 AM) I'm not a lawyer or a financial guy, but I'm pretty sure his legal fiduciary duty to the shareholders of the Bulls would prevent him from taking revenues and profits from that business and funneling them towards a different one. He wouldn't be funneling Bulls money. He would be funneling his own.

The Bulls and White Sox are 2 separtate businesses, and although many of the names are the same, the ownership groups are different. There is nothing to prevent JR or any of his other partners from taking their Bulls payouts and throwing it at the White Sox, but that would be kind of silly. They both are turning a decent profit over the years. JR's statement that when he goes the family should keep the Bulls and sell the Sox is pretty sound, because the Bulls are pretty much idiot proof now. The Sox, not so much.

Why? Is he really better than Flowers? I doubt it, and if he is, not very much, it would only be for the rest season. Give Tyler the rope to hang himself. It's not like he is going to hit .100 the rest of the season.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 07:14 AM) Yes, he was the GM for one disastrous season which saw 90 losses, the signings of 41-year old Steve Carlton and 37-year old George Foster, the firings of Tony La Russa and Dave Dombrowski, and the giving away of prospect Bobby Bonilla. But yes, even Hawk does not evaluate a player's performance solely on a single statistic. More exhaggeration. Carlton and Foster were picked up after they cleared waivers. White Sox fans for years had been calling for LaRussa's firing. Hawk did claim Bonilla as a rule 5, and traded him back to Pittsburgh for Jose DeLeon who eventually turned into Lance Johnson. Not exactly giving him away. He also traded a bunch of crap to Seattle for Ivan Calderon who was pretty productive and turned into Tim Raines. His horribleness as a GM is vastly overstated. One big reason he took over was the minor league system was even worse than it is now and the organization had no depth. The team was doomed in 1986. Seaver didn't want to be in Chicago and Britt Burns who Hawk did trade, never pitched again after a stellar 1985.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 09:15 PM) Flowers just needs to be released or sent down to AAA or just let Nieto start Nieto every day would be worse than Flowers at this time. Maybe in a year or two, but right now he would get eaten alive.

Abreu's head looks like a pumpkin compared to Sierra's.

The just showed Garcia taking some flyballs before the game. Of course he dropped it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 07:43 PM) So around $3.2 million. That makes sense. $5.5 million is pretty much the midpoint between $7.9 and $3.2...almost exactly. Seems that's what Luhnow and company believe is a fair settlement. The Astros have him by the balls. He is 17 or 18. $5 million sets him up pretty well if baseball doesn't work out. He is hurt. If he needs surgery, the draft next year is probably out. As long as the injury is legit, I think they are being more than fair.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 07:36 PM) The Cubs aren't going to make up 10,000 seats a night, in one year. That is just absurd. They wouldn't have to make up 10. As bad as they have been, there still is only 4 seasons in White Sox history that have drawn better than the Cubs this year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 07:32 PM) Aiken is going to get paid if he holds out. Remember, if the Astros don't offer 90% of slot, they lose the compensation for Aiken not signing. His slot value is $7,922,100. Meaning if the Astros don't offer about $7.2 million, they won't get a replacement pick for Aiken if he doesn't sign. They get a replacement pick if he failed the physical and they offered 40% slot.

It will probably take him a while to be ready to play then a rehab assignment and then the majors. September 1 the rosters expand if they haven't sent anyone packing.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 02:40 PM) If Shark is really criticizing the Cubs (like I believe Kyyle said?) toss in Garza's comments and Theo saying EJax's contract was a massive mistake (which it was) while he's still on the roster and it'll be really hard for them to attract big name pitchers at good prices if the Ricketts are as poor as they claim. Unless the checks start bouncing, as long as the Cubs or Sox or any other team for that matter are willing to pay the most, they will have no problem attracting players. I went to the games Saturday and Sunday. One guy to keep an eye on in the future is Cano. He appears disinterested half the game. Jogs to first. He has superior skill, but when that starts to go a little bit, if they don't do something with the team to perk his interest, those last 5 or 6 or 7 years of that contract are going to be painful for Seattle fans to watch.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 02:22 PM) And we quit going to games. I wonder how many season tickets Addison Russell sold? If you want to think the Cubs and Sox are in the same boat, fine, but IMO, the Cubs are one 85 win season away from being constantly sold out again. And to answer your question, sadly not much less than Jose Abreu sold.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 02:31 PM) Aren't the heat $50 million under the cap? How do you get a mid level exception when you are under the cap? I am guessing cap holds.