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QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 09:33 AM) If this is "hot Viciedo," he can go too. The last 4 or 5 games he's hit a few homers and a lot of his outs were hit very hard.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 09:10 AM) Woah, looks like we got us a strawman here. Viciedo isn't good defensively, but he's not a "butcher." It's not like he's Carlos Lee out there. As far as his future, I wouldn't have a problem paying him $5M for another year. I really wouldn't have a problem with letting him go either, but it's somewhat foolish to let a 25 year old with his talent walk during a rebuild. If he was being pushed, it would be different, but he's not. When guys are hot, people like to mention they will regress to the mean. But if they don't like a player, when he's cold, they act as if he won't get another hit the rest of his career. I think both Beckham and Viciedo are near the bottom of their 2014 rollercoaster ride. Viciedo seems to be rising the past 4 or 5 games. Beckham will start hitting again soon whether anyone wants to believe it or not.

Thibs is close with Melo's agent.

Trout and Richards vs. Mitchell and Phegley. Switch that up and the sox are ready to win. I don't know the difference between Phegley's and Richards' bonuses but Trout got $50k more than Mitchell.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 06:43 PM) G. Richards was someone the Sox were linked to in the supplemental round of the 2009 draft, but they took Phegley instead Oops.

Cleto was also released. How long does Tommy Hanson have?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 06:33 PM) More consistent innings where hopefully he can work on things instead of dealing with the stress of the majors. The velocity is there, but his release point isn't. A closer in Charlotte isn"t going to get a lot of work.he is on a pace for about 70 innings and over 50 appearances.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 06:30 PM) Still think best bet is sending him to Charlotte and allow him to close. Unless they are better at getting him control and command in Charlotte, I don't see the point. He walks a ton and leads the team in wild pitches. He doesn't have to give up hits to give up runs.

Remember when people were b****ing about Webb not pitching the 8th inning?

I think it goes down to 40% slot with a failed physical.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 02:34 PM) They didn't let Ben Wallace wear a headband. He was even pulled from a game and suspended when he knowlingly violated the rule. His first year with the team, no. But then they made an exception. Chicago Bulls coach Scott Skiles, who would not allow center Ben Wallace to wear his trademark headband last season, said Monday that the team has decided to make an exception to its team rule and let Wallace wear the sweat-stopping accessory during games. The return of the headband was endorsed by Wallace's teammates, Skiles said. "We still have a no-headband rule," Skiles told reporters. "I just left it up to the guys who have been here if they wanted to make an exception for Ben. I was fine with it. They were fine with it."

A guy who will never play for the White Sox gets replaced by a guy who will never play for the White Sox.,Cleto also let go.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 02:18 PM) I think they somewhat let that go when Rip Hamilton used it all the time for his mask. They let Ben Wallace wear a headband.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 01:03 PM) Sure he should. Frank Thomas was awesome in the Derby and it didn't mess his swing up at all. According to Hawk, it screwed up The Big Hurt for a couple of weeks.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 12:49 PM) Nick Friedell @NickFriedell Bulls officials feeling confident about pitch as they head into United Center. They've always believed Chicago offers best place to win. Nick Friedell @NickFriedell Carmelo, in a full Bulls uniform, is on some of the other video boards around the United Center ? That's pretty standard. They do it in college a lot.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 12:39 PM) No, but I do think the Bulls Front Office has a propensity to make plans for free agency that they can't deliver on and continue to be a first/second round exit team. If they don't feel confident they can land melo, they should not have modeled their last 3 years around "2014 plan". I think this year they have a couple back up plans. I know Mirotic was in Chicago the Sunday before the draft. I was in an elevator with him, unless he has an identical twin who likes to wear b-ball shorts with Real Madrid tags on them. The Bulls probably have a couple different scenerios for him, whether it is trading him outright, including him in a sign and trade or having him play for them. So the Sun Times reports that the Bulls are totally unaware of Mirotic coming to America (another classic movie btw) is total BS.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 12:14 PM) Because there is a difference between scheduling a visit and contract negotiations? I am pretty sure you aren't supposed to have any contact. It is one reason about the reports today of teams being the first to contact some individuals as soon as the clock struck zero.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 12:32 PM) I'm not optimistic, but I also don't work for the bulls front office and feel the need to open my mouth about it THE DAY HE ARRIVES. As per the rest, he doesn't have to uproot his family. Boozer's family has lived in Miami the last 4 years, and he really won't be taking in that much less money after taxes. Oh, and he doesn't have to play with Bargnani. Apparently if he is moving to a new city, his family is coming with him. And regarding the report, who really cares? Do you think there is a chance Melo won't sign because some website is reporting some unnamed member of the Bulls front office isn't optimistic?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 12:28 PM) If that were the case, he never had a need to become a free agent. He gets a new contract. Maybe he's like Ozzie and can't work on a 1 year deal.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 12:15 PM) This is SOOO bulls front office: http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post/_/id/19663/ This is the reason they get so much s***. Is anyone really optimistic about the Bulls signing him? He has to uproot his family and play for less money, and spend his winters in Chicago. I'm glad this isn't supposed to drag on.

According to the NY Post, Melo thinks losing Taj in a sign and trade would be defeating the purpose.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 11:50 AM) DA, how many times do you want Wite to tell you he was wrong about Paulino? He has done it multiple times in multiple threads. Let it go, stop rubbing his face in it. That wasn't my objective.

I'm sure every team bends the rules a little bit. At the very least, teams and agents have middle men. How is it, if the Bulls could not talk to Melo, they had a meeting set up for him for today, last week?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 10:59 AM) I'm telling you that the "support" that wite is referring to is the "support" that has been given, in this thread, regarding Viciedo's trade value. Specifically that he should have some because of the fact that he might be a flukey late breakout. That is what "this much support" means here. That is the context of the conversation. That is why Felipe Paulino does not belong here. Except he told me I was correct. Are you guys one and the same?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 10:45 AM) As a guy who had substantial trade value, not a guy who does or doesn't have some prayer of being good ever. I don't know how you don't see the difference. One last time, this is what I was responding to: You are also talking about guys that are the exception to the rule. No one is saying that the Sox should cut bait with Viciedo or give him away for peanuts or stop playing him all together, but I don't think I've ever seen this much support for a guy who has never shown anything but flashes. Not trade value, support. I don't know what Viciedo's trade value is, nor do I care. I still think he can be a very good hitter. He had a real horrible streak. Eventually he will get hot again.