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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 01:24 PM) who said Lovie is stupid Spend a game at Soldier Field. Any time a Bear screws up you will hear an F--- you Lovie, you suck. Every. Single. Time.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 01:22 PM) ^^^ we'll probably want Lovie back If the Bears had beaten the Colts in the SB, I wonder if the fans would have had a different feeling toward Lovie. He has pretty much been hated for a good portion of his tenure.

If the Bears go 10-6 next year and don't make the playoffs, will that mean the new coach is as stupid as Lovie?

If Webb and Carimi are the starting tackles next year, I will wager the Bears will not win 10 games, and the offense won't be much better.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 10:41 AM) Yeah, I'd hate to hire the next Sean Payton. That's exactly the kind of guy they will hire. Judging from past history, and considering Emery has been with the Bears before, it will be closer to Tim Beckman.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 10:01 AM) Ditka was not a good coach. That said, I don't give a rats ass that Lovie is calm. In fact, I kind of prefer that. I want Reid because the younger talent on the Bears is on offense and you have to evaluate Jay this next year. To do that, I want to know that you have brought in as good of an offensive mind as possible and Reid is as innovative and successful as it gets from the offensive side. The only teams that scored less points than the Eagles this year were Arizona, Jacksonville and KC. It would be the perfect Bears hire for more offense. They will wind up hiring an assistant with no head coaching experience because they are the Bears.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 09:37 AM) So far Andy Reid(Eagles), Shurmur and Heckert(Browns), Gene Smith (Jaguars GM), Mike Tannenbaum(Jets) have lost their jobs Sources say Romeo Crennel loses his job and Scott Pioli keeps his, Norv Turner and AJ Smith both also lose their jobs Scott Pioli must have blackmail material on someone.

If Lovie is gone, I for one, will not be saying he was an "average" coach. Any coach that takes his team to the SB with Rex Grossman behind center is better than average. I just hope they bring in someone proven, or the Bears could be the KC Chiefs fairly quickly.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 08:50 AM) The standard is the playoffs(and greater goal is the championship), not what the fans want. Neither goal have been met but once in the past 6 years, and there is one constant here and that is lovie. Emery needs to do what is right for the Bears and needs to rebuild an aging team into a playoff team again. That DOES include fixing the offensive line. Who here was screaming to dump Forte? Who here is saying Lovie is an idiot for wanting Bush? Go back to when Bush was signed, many wanted the Bears to walk away from Forte. There was a post earlier saying Bush was a signing Lovie had something to do with, and it wasn't a compliment. Who are they going to hire? Andy Reid? How many times has he made the playoffs lately? An assistant? These are the Bears. They will be paying Lovie next year if he coaches or not. Are they going to pay him and pay another guy big bucks to coach their team or will they go the cheap route? I'm guessing the cheap route. I'd rather be locked into Lovie one more year than the next Jauron or Wanne for 3 or 4. If they fix the line, Lovie gives them the best chance to win next year because of his defensive philosophy with turnovers. The defense is aging. When they stop getting turnovers, they lose. Lovie's teams take the ball away better than anyone.

QUOTE (balfanman @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 08:10 AM) Aren't there a lot of head coaches who find success with their 2nd coaching gig? I realize that the Bears don't hire head coaches with previous coaching experience, but maybe Emery can break that pattern if the price is right. If Rivera is let go in Carolina I would love to see him back with the Bears. He has not had big success yet and I would think that he would be a good candidate to blossom into a great coach. I don't believe that he would be that expensive yet either. Does anyone know if he burned any bridges (other than with Lovie) when he was let go before? I don't see where Rivera is an upgrade or a guy you want to make a multi-year committment. If the Bears fire Lovie, they need to hire a respected name who has won before, something they have never done , or this is all going to be re-lived a couple of years from now. It might even happen if they do that.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 07:56 AM) The fear of the unknown is a terrible reason to keep a coach. Every team should strive for greatness and we all know Lovie isn't that. Lovie is two things, a great defensive coordinator and a very good motivator. Unfortunately, he has no ability to pick good offensive minds and his overall in-game managing is just plain bad. Does this make him a horrible head coach? No, he's so strong on the defensive side of ball that it makes up for some of his other shortcomings. However, it does make him incredibly flawed and prevents him from ever being a great head coach in the NFL. I actually don't see how keeping Lovie is up for debate. Does anyone here really think Emery wants to commit to Lovie as his long-term guy? Emery has worked his ass off to become a GM and now he's going to stake his career on a head coach that he was forced to keep for a year? If this guy has any kind of long-term vision, he'll want to hire his own guy who will better suited to carrying it out. And going the lame-duck route and keeping Lovie for one more season makes even less sense. Some good coaches will jump ship and you'll have a very hard time replacing them. Also, if you fire Tice, how are you going to hire a respectable OC? You pretty much have to give Bates the job. So after all this, Lovie is given another year to meet what criteria? Make the playoffs? Let's say the Bears don't, that's two years of not making the playoffs under Emery and even if he makes Lovie the scapegoat, the whole process will reflect poorly on him. Also, then we're talking about yet another OC Cutler will have to work with in 2014. I think the decision is pretty obvious for Emery. Fire Lovie and find a new head coach that matches the organization's long-term vision. p****footing around for another year would just add to this mess. I'm not too worried though, I think there's almost no chance Lovie is brought back. Isn't that the reason Tice was the OC to begin with? Facts are, a lot of Bears fans were jumping for joy when Tice was named OC. The very same ones who were screaming the Bears should dump Forte after the great signing of Bush. Now those same people want to say Lovie is an idiot because he wanted Bush. You can name anyone OC or head coach, if Webb is your starting LT next year, chances are the Bears won't win 10 games, and the next group will be called clowns by the clowns in the stands.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 30, 2012 -> 08:20 PM) Marty was fired after going 14-2. Lovie should go. How did the new guy do? Lost to NE in the playoffs just like Marty. Most of the names thrown around would want more power than just being the head coach, although many here say Lovie has that power. As for Andy Reid, what is so different about his teams' results than the Bears under Lovie? He did win 2% more of his games and like Lovie lost his only SB appearance. I don't see the Bears shelling out big money to him while paying Lovie another year just because Joe in section 429 doesn't think Lovie gets pissed off enough. If Lovie wasn't under contract next year, I could see change to make change, but this is the Bears, and if they are planning to hire a coach, history suggests we all should be careful what we wish for. A Dick Jauron clone could be next.

The Bears have never hired a head coach with previous NFL head coaching experience. If Lovie goes, there is a decent chance Wanne II is hired. At least Bears fans will be happy until September.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 30, 2012 -> 07:19 PM) You a probably right. Problem is, Lovie had a lot of say in personell matters so you can't really just say that was Angelo being Angelo. Angelo lost a lot of power when the Bears made the superbowl. Lovie might have had imput with free agents, but the draft considering he does zero scouting, I would be shocked if he has much say.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 30, 2012 -> 07:17 PM) The other problem is...if you gave the Bears O-line 2 straight #1 O-line picks, they wouldn't be able to coach them into anything useful. You have to select the correct players. The Bears have developed several players,just not offensive linemen., I believe the Bears are the 13th team not to make the playoffs with a 10-6 record. How many seasons have they been playing 16 games? Around 30 I would guess.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 30, 2012 -> 07:09 PM) The oline does suck, but this roster has talent. Defensively loaded and you have playmakers on offense. And the defense didn't disappoint. That is Lovie's speciality. They were offensively challenged even with playmakers because they have blown off the OL for years.the problem is, when they finally get around to fixing the line, their defense is going to be living in retirement communities.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 30, 2012 -> 07:03 PM) A good coach goes 1-7 against biggest rival and misses playoffs 5 of 6 years. I agree he is a good guy but a very average head coach...........he has had more than ample time in Chicago. So you think a better coach would have faired better even with a roster that isn't as good? If the Bears had as nice of a roster as the Packers the past 3 years, I would agree, but they haven't. Changing coaches won't change the results. Look how happy everyone was when Tice became OC. Now he is a dope. If the Bears don't address their OL, they will be lucky to go 10-6 in 2013 no matter who is coaching them.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 30, 2012 -> 06:55 PM) Fan base is not going to accept Lovie getting another shot at this point, that ship has sailed. He needs axed on Black Monday. What do you mean? If Lovie is the coach they won't go to games? I thin he will be gone, but he isn't in charge of personnel, and that is why the Bears aren't in the playoffs.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 30, 2012 -> 06:50 PM) Bear players are in a huge comfort zone under Lovie...............time to shake it up and get some results with someone new! I personally don't think that is the problem. Lovie took a team QBd by Rex Grossman to the Super Bowl. He is a good coach regardless of what Bears fans think. If they want to keep putting off upgrading the offensive line, the next coach will be considered an idiot by the fans as well.they only lost to playoff teams this year.

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 30, 2012 -> 03:56 PM) Big 10 play gonna be awesome, except when Iowa, NW, or PSU play. Iowa will lose some games they should win since they start 3 freshmen a sophomore and a junior, but they will win some games no one thinks they can. Probably NIT bound, but assuming no injuries, their days as a doormat are finally over.

The one time you actually want GB to win, and they look like the Bears@ SF. This will only enhance the hatred.

Tennessee scored 4 TDs in 5 minutes running no offensive plays. 2 pick 6s, and 2 punt returns for a TD.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 29, 2012 -> 04:05 PM) The $ is serious.... BUT the Cell is the AL version of Coors... I think he will be fine. I agree with Marty here. If you can get him and the price is reflective of a guy owed a lot of money who has yet to prove he is elite anywhere but Coors Field, jump on it. But if your paying for a 26 year old with his overall numbers, it could really blow up in your face. He is a talent and may produce big numbers for years no matter where he plays, but up until now, despite some great overall numbers, he hasn't done much to warrant his paycheck or a large package of talent to acquire him close to sea level.

QUOTE (beck72 @ Dec 29, 2012 -> 06:35 AM) I know it's been addressed in a few posts, but who should reasonably be on the Sox wish list of LH bats going forward? If the Sox were to make a trade, who would best fit the Sox needs,who would be locked up for a few years that would be worth the sox trading valuable players/ prospects for? Carlos Gonzalez? Jay Bruce? Chase Headley? Ben Zobrist? Not all [maybe any] would be on the block. But if the Sox came in with on overwhelming offer (without including Sale), what teams would listen, or at least not laugh and hang up? Also, could there be LH bats in the upper minors that could be worth trading for, that could develop into a key building block? If Ben Zobrist is available, the Sox should go after him. I just don't see what they possibly could give up to make Tampa bite.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 28, 2012 -> 08:52 PM) Who is gonna take Hafner's place for the 80 games he misses with injury? Grady Sizemore should be ready to play 10-15 games.