Dick Allen

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 9, 2012 -> 11:17 AM) I agree with you completely . I was just responding to people who were thinking that the rumors of Viciedo being moved meant it might make sense to go for Hamilton. Viciedo being moved, De Aza being moved, means another OF coming in. Hahn already has said 2013 is not a rebuilding year. No doubt Hamilton is a pipe dream, although except for the booze and crack and whatever else, he is exactly what they need. I still think the names mentioned could be traded for and in some cases for other teams" prospects for Justin Upton. Sox and D Backs have dealt a lot in the past, and this is probably a pipe dream as well, although not quite as big.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Nov 9, 2012 -> 06:37 AM) I think you're right. But, I can dream, can't I? It would just be so nice to actually have a potent left handed bat, with a high OBP. Dunn in the middle of the order is just not good enough. If he's still on the team, I hope that he bats somewhere lower than fifth. Maybe they'll go after someone less expensive than Hamilton. I just saw how much he's asking for in free agency. Yikes!!!! I agree. As for Hamilton, he obviously is exactly what the Sox need in their line up, but because of the money, It's probably impossible to bring him in, and some team will probably get temporary insanity and give him close to what he is asking. I wonder if Hahn is making a play for Justin Upton.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Nov 9, 2012 -> 06:19 AM) Perhaps, but not if he intends to acquire a big left handed bat for LF. How would Hamilton look in this lineup vs RHP? CF Tekotte or J. Danks (Defense and OBP are the top priority. If they can't provide that, find someone else) 2B Sanchez (Switch hitting, good bunter, speed, can take a walk) LF Hamilton 1B Konerko DH Dunn RF Rios SS Ramirez 3B ??? (hopefully another LH bat and, or solid defense) C Flowers Why trade De Aza? It isn't like he is making a a lot of money. Tekotte is a long shot at best to be on the roster. He couldn't stick with the Padres. Considering him as a leadoff possibility for the White Sox isn't realistic. If you notice, except for Floyd, none of the guys the Sox supposedly have thrown out there make much money. I don't know why trading guys who make no money opens the door for guys making more money than anyone in franchise history.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Nov 9, 2012 -> 05:31 AM) What surprises me the most is that Thornton isn't on that list. Hahn appears to be determined to address the low OBP problem on this team. Beckham's sub .300, and Viciedo's even .300 OBP's may bother him, as much as it bothers some of us. I wouldn't be disappointed to see either of them go, if it meant replacing them with guys who can actually get on base, especially if they bat left handed. I think that they really like Sanchez, and they may think that he's ready to take Beckham's place at 2B. Another possibility is Asdrubal Cabrera, who the Indians appear to be shopping: I love de Aza, and have for a long time, but Hahn may think that Tekotte, the kid they picked up from San Diego, is ready to be given a shot at CF. He has a similar skill set as de Aza and also swings a left handed bat. He's probably a better centerfielder, and is 3 years younger. J. Danks is another option, and is still regarded as the best defensive outfielder in the organization. De Aza might be a valuable trading chip for a team desperatly looking for a lead off hitter who can steal bases. If Hahn is thinking about dealing De Aza to open up a spot for a guy who was DFA'd by the Padres, they need to fire him before he does it.

I can't imagine him getting anything near 8 figures and don't know if he would be willing to play 3b, but Marco Scutaro makes contact and gets on base. Unconventional numbers for a third baseman, but his OPS is generally in the upper .700s lately.

I think Youk is the Sox top choice because he will only cost money. Considering his splits, Youk should be begging the Sox to take him back. I do think Youk knows playing 1b is probably better for him, but if he signs for 2 years 1b opens up with the White Sox.

Michael Young is owed $16 million next year, is bad defensively, and his OPS was .014 higher than Beckham's. Other than that, he's a great idea .

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Nov 8, 2012 -> 12:59 AM) Ya I just checked out his minor league stats, pretty brutal. Sub .900 FLD% is no bueno. He was 20 years old and it was his first year over here in the US so I'm not sure if that had something to do with it. Could it also be a smoke screen? It's pretty clear this team needs a 3B so we have no leverage in a trade involving one. There is no need for a smokescreen. This leverage you speak about, IMO is overrated. If you have what the other team needs, a deal will get done. They won't pass on a trade because they think you are so desperate that you need to vastly overpay. Besides, I think most Whitw Sox competitors would love to see Viciedo try to play 3b. If we know he is not a legit option there, you can be sure the rest of MLB knows as well.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 04:45 PM) I got a kick out of the post election coverage at least on msnbc. Before the election they were saying how close the race was and a nailbiter, then the minute the thing is over they say the Republicans will never win a presidential election again, the Republicans are a disgrace, blah blah blah. Let me say this, if the Republicans have a better candidate for once or a more popular candidate, that person will win. Or let's say the Democrats go with Hillary and people early on deem her a wretched b****. Well, the Republican candidate Rubio in that case will likely win and win big. I just got a kick out of how all of a sudden the Republicans are a joke and will never win, when a day earlier, some were saying Romney might even win. It all changes in one day? Give me a break, Democratic pundits. The truth is, Obama was a very very very weak choice, in fact a joke of a choice. But the Republicans threw out there an even worse candidate somehow. And I am somebody who voted for Obama saying this. Yes I voted for Obama and still think he is a wretched president. It's just that Romney is way worse and I did want to vote. As long as the economy is halfway decent, if Hillary is the next candidate, and Bill is still able to campaign for her, I think she will win easily. Bill Clinton is the biggest rockstar in politics. Without him, I don't think Obama wins.

He strikes out a ton, so he should fit right in. He didn't cost anything, so it's worth a shot, but chances are, Knights fans will be watching him next summer.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 03:22 PM) Didn't they have a deadline deal done that Span veto'd? No. It was a bad report. Span doesn't have a no trade.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 12:10 PM) The Gov of Colo had this to say... Federal law trumps, no pun intended, state law. It will be interesting to see how this goes.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 10:28 AM) 17 players who qualified for the batting title had an OBP of .375 or better. Here's the list Who are you going to acquire on that list? I would say you are looking at .350-.360 being more reasonable, and, considering Dunn put up the 3rd worst BABIP of his career, I think it's a fairly safe bet to assume he will do that next year. Honestly, figuring for .230/.350/.500 is not out of the realm of possibility. Other than he hasn't put up those kind of numbers for 2 1/2 years, and the other fact that he seems to put the ball in play less and less, I can see him doing that. He needs to move down in the order unless he can turn on the time machine and go back to 2009.

I was out in LF by the bullpen for a,game this year. One of those days when it was around 100. Juan hosed us down a few times.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 07:12 AM) It was 4th among Sox regulars, and one of the three better is already gone, so the Sox really need to look at upgrading the other five or they will have a lineup where nobody ever gets on base. If the Sox had five other guys in the lineup with an OBP over .350, then yes, I'd look into replacing Dunn, but his OBP, while subpar by Dunn's standards, is valuable to the Sox right now. And for every time Dunn strikes out with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs, Konerko/Rios ground into two double plays. He actually was 5th. Also Mr. Clutch with 2 outs and RISP hit .136 with a .577 OPS.

Sun Times isreporting AJP telling people he won't be back with the Sox.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 11:54 PM) The guys on fox news really dont believe that there is a fundamental issue, this was just a tactical issue and as recently as last week Romney was winning easy. Its just odd. They will never admit Nate Silver was pretty much right on.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 05:08 PM) its the same with saying its a landslide, it could drive the other sides people to go out and vote as a hail mary. Regardless, I dont think people are stupid enough to just blindly believe what people are saying on tv. Which is why it reminds me of Baghdad Bob, and why I think its a terrible strategy. There are a lot of sheep out there. I think it was Karl Rove who came up with this strategy. I think most of Romney's family doesn't really believe it is a blow out in his favor, but if it can attract some to hop on the bandwagon, it is worth a shot.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:57 PM) You dont have to say things arent looking good. I posted a better statement above that keeps it positive but also reinforces the fact that everyone still needs to vote, because my projection is based on them doing it. But saying it is close is also heard from the other side, and could, if your theory is correct, encourage the other side out to vote. Saying you are blowing them out even if you are not isn't bad strategy, and there is always a slight chance it's even correct.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:53 PM) For Romney to win, the state polls need to be seriously off. They need to be systematically biased in Obama's favor, and if that's true in Ohio, it's true in NV, PA, WI etc. That would be Romney landslide territory. I don't think optimistic projections for your candidate are really going to damage your reputation as a campaign strategist down the road. The "landslide" victory still requires winning a bunch of tight races in numerous states. I would be surprised if Romney won, but I think he has a chance. McCain had no chance.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:50 PM) That may be true, but I think their strategy is defective. Id need to see some evidence that showed that somehow telling people its going to be a landslide increased voting in their favor. That to me just goes against all common sense. For example, Obama is going to win IL. Many Obama voters are indifferent on voting because their vote doesnt matter. They dont go out and vote just to say they voted. And if he said things weren't looking so good, he woul have a hard time getting more votes. People like going with winners. Bandwagon fans isn't exclusive to sports.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) I get that its their strategy to say that they are winning, but it comes off as Baghdad Bob. Win or lose tonight, I would think they would still want some credibility tomorrow. There is a theory that people like to vote for winners. Tell everyone your data shows you winning big, if it is bought, it gets you more votes. Pretty much every loser in the presidential race was publicly optimistic on Election Day. If Romney loses in a landslide, no one will remember or care where his people had the numbers . If he loses, he won't be running for president again.

If Romney and his people truly thought he was going to win big, he wouldn't have been out campaigning today.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 01:30 PM) Runner on 3rd less than 2 outs Adam Dunn hit .478 with an OPS of 1.499. So ya, theres that. He also struck out 5 times. As long as we are praising Dunn, check out his numbers with 2 out and runners in scoring position. It was only a year ago this very board wanted nothing to do with Carlos Quentin and his chance to make $ 8-9 million in arb for an .850+ OPS. Now they say you can't get an .800 OPS guy for less than $15 million per......

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 10:26 AM) Strikeout totals and batting average have little to do with a hitter's value, and I'm not 100% certain you can get a free agent guaranteed to put up an .800+ OPS for much less. Next time a Sox hitter strikes out with the tying run on 3rd and one out, remind me of this position. Dunn's OBP for which you seem to be touting, wasn't all that high. Even with leading the league in walks, it was 4th among Sox regulars.