Dick Allen

QUOTE(rangercal @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 12:56 PM) They must have missed out on hundreds of season ticket holders. Their f***ing loss. They will still try to bring everyone in the fold. But its going to be hard to with this dissappointment. I bet Eric Soderholm got some though.

QUOTE(THEWOOD @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 12:22 PM) thank you thank you thank you...now i just hope to get throuh Another thing you can try is call your credit card company and see if and what the Sox took from your card. If its about a $1000 or so more than the 50% deposit, you know you are in.

You guys that put the deposits on-line go to whitesox.com/seasontickets, click on the account reps and you will get some direct lines. Maybe they can help you.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) Why the f*** is zero an option for your ticket quantity? Because they will actually be able to fill that.

The lottery could be contained to people registered at whitesox.com like the Cubs/Sox extras were. They could have made it so you had to be registered before a certain date. Of course it is MLBs call, but considering they hold lotteries in STL and HOU the teams do have some influence on how the tickets are to be sold.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 10:10 AM) So how much do you think the brokers are willing to invest? How much capitol will they invest for 2006, knowing that most regular season games will not sell out and they will have to take a loss on those tickets? They will not be getting face value on most of the games. They also have expenses in selling the tickets. Even getting face value, they will lose based on interest and overhead. Plus if they tie up too much money they don't have it to buy Stones, Bulls, Streisand, etc. tickets. If the Sox are out of the race by August, the brokers are really in trouble. They don't like to gamble. They also don't want 50 or 100 seats to an event that may or may not sell out. Then have that for 80 games? Who will be paying a premium in April? Don't you think they would come out better in a single game market? Invest now and get your return in days? You know the phone lines would be jammed by opportunistic people hoping to snag tickets to sell. And the brokers employ people to buy tickets. Some have ties directly to Ticketmaster and the other sellers. They develop contacts inside the clubs to gain access. The one thing that would kill the broker is if the Sox only played 2 home games.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 10:04 AM) That's good that they announced that after the fact. When I first got season tickets and when they moved to the new park I did it in the offices. It was pretty cool. The new park wasn't ready yet but the guy had a huge chart that actually had seats and rows mapped out and I chose a location that way.

QUOTE(That funky motion @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 09:59 AM) Are you in left or right side? Do you get sun on the left side? I'm between home and first. You will get a lot of sun down the left side.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 09:47 AM) Who would be more likely to sell their tickets? Person A who buys two tickets at $140 each and can make a quick, higher % cash profit. Person B who buys season tickets + WS Tickets and would make a much smaller profit after expenses, who would basically have 2006 season tickets for his trouble? My guess is person A. More people would go through the trouble of trying and hitting the lottery with a lower initial investment. Many of the people putting down money are brokers themselves. They will rake in money for the WS tickets, paying for next year's full season and then some, and will be able to sell the defending World Champion tickets for at least face next year which would be all profit.

QUOTE(THEWOOD @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 09:40 AM) that was one of the reasons i went with club... I sit in the club. Good move.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 09:30 AM) The answer to this question is time and preparation...We don't have much experience with this world series thing so some things that are done were not exactly well planned out...Loyalty should've been a factor but instead of dealing with emails they simply released one simple press release. I'm sure they were bombarded with deposits. Considering this whole process takes human contact they are going to have a hard time reaching everyone by the time the tickets go on sale to the general public. I would imagine that the tickets that would be reserved by people making their deposits would be held out, but you never know. It wouldn't surprise me if they are contacting the people requesting the most expensive seats first.

I would warn everyone who did take advantage of this. Keep calling. If you were assigned my rep you won't get called back. I'm being serious.

QUOTE(THEWOOD @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 08:33 AM) dick allen...why are you so bitter? I'm not bitter. I'm a long time season ticketholder who will be at the games. As I said, there will be a few people getting these tickets with good intentions. I just think the majority will wind up in ticket broker hands which is a shame. IMO, there at least should be some tickets available for the general public.

QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 08:16 AM) A lot of people were not willing to make a several thousand $$ commitment with a chance to playoff tickets. Perhaps you need a memory refresher.. but at the time they were initially promoting this the Sox were playing like crap. BTW.. they got somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 new st seats sold then, so I'll say from that - and from the apparent demand for this deal - that your 1000 # is low. As for you questioning the fans on this site and their lack of purchase earlier... Pretty f***ing rude. Not rude, curious. Seems to me when something has been offered several times, I believe the Sox had a 15 game lead when you could have purchased half a season with an option for all playoff games not just World Series, they might have bit then. I don't blame anyone for taking advantage of this offer. If I didn't have tickets I most likely would as well. I just question the long-term effect it really is going to have on the season ticket base, and I know most of these WS tickets are going to wind up with Eric Soderholm and people of his ilk, looking for $1000 to sit way up behind a post in the corner.

QUOTE(THEWOOD @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 08:25 AM) I plan on being at every game Let me ask you and everyone else here who has put down a deposit. If the White Sox were to call you this morning and inform you that this deal was sold out for the WS tickets, would you still put the 10% down which is required for season tickets next season?

QUOTE(THEWOOD @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 08:15 AM) I purchased the ozzie plan this past year, I was waiting till after the 1st of the year to purchase season tickets. I wanted to see how much I was going to have to pay in taxes this year, but I figured what the hell, why not do it now this is the WS. As I said, there are a few that will be in it for the long haul. Do you plan on attending each game or are you looking to sell? They had a season ticketholder on the news yesterday who sold all his seats to a broker for $12,000 cash. They did offer this same deal near the end of the regular season and didn't have much interest. I would imagine at least 90% of the people putting down deposits will either never be season ticket holders or will cancel their plans if the Sox don't make the playoffs next year. I don't blame people for buying them. My brother in law bought a couple. I just think they would be better off in the long run making these few tickets available for people to watch and fall in love with baseball and the Sox rather than making them available to people who are looking to make money.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 07:56 AM) Wow that has got to be the worst possible scenario that you are outlining there. -You are basically assuming that NO ONE is in this for next year, dispite the Sox being in the World Series this year. -You are all assuming that NONE of these new ticket purchases are Sox fans, or will be used by Sox fans (even if they are just given away, there would still be someone going to the game, and the ticket is paid for) -You are assuming that people are just going to give there money to the Sox for just the opportunity for World Series tickets, and instead of paying the rest for next years tickets, they will just throw that money away. -I guess you are assuming that the 2005 team was a complete aberration and that they will be so bad that there will be no demand for tickets next year, as it won't be worth these new ticketholders time or money to either go to the games, or sell them to other people, instead just eating their deposit money. -You are also assuming that any of these new revenue must be being wasted, as there is nothing about the impact of new players or retaining current players being factored in, with keeping the Sox competitive the playoffs next year, which would go a long way towards fan retention. I am assuming there will be a few people who are buying these tickets to attend the games. But the fact that they offered this deal earlier and didn't have a huge response would indicate to me that most of these people that are purchasing tickets are looking for a one-time thrill or looking to make money. Believe me, the majority of WS tickets sold to these new accounts will wind up in the hands of brokers, or are corporations noticing the prices of quality seats are around $2500 and are securing tickets for their clients. There will definitely be a bump up in season tickets next season, but this promotion isn't going to have a long-term impact on the base. Think about it, even the people on this site who are buying, why did it take them until now to put down a deposit? They could have had all the playoff games. If they are die hards why didn't they have tickets for this season? They were selling season tickets up until the beginning of August. They could have purchased a grinder plan. Bandwagon jumpers don't last long. Expecting the White Sox to be in the WS next year would be silly given their and every other team's history.

QUOTE(rudylaw @ Oct 18, 2005 -> 07:32 AM) I don't understand why so many people are pissed off. All I ever hear is people complaining that there are never any fans there and now the Sox come up with a great idea to guarantee fans for next and people are mad. If they sell an extra 10,000 season tickets that would all but guarantee us 30,000-35,000 fans per game. If you figure an extra 10,000 people per game at an average of $50 per person for food, beer, whatever, that is an extra $500,000 per game. That is 40,000,000 a year. That is a one hell of a free agent that we can get. They aren't going to get an additional 10,000 from this offer. Maybe 1000. And remember they did offer this near the end of the regular season with tickets to every playoff game and hardly anyone bit. Now everyone is biting, and its all for WS tickets. Many of these people will wind up eating the deposit, and many more will cancel their tickets after 1 season. They are interested in one thing only, and that's WS tickets. Considering the Sox make the WS very rarely, 99% of the new accounts are so short term, it won't have much effect on the budget if any.

I believe they are getting a lot more deposits than anticipated. With the prices that are being asked for on the various broker sites and ebay and craigslist, the 50% deposit is going to be eaten by a lot of the people taking advantage of this offer. They figure they pay the deposit get the tickets and they still come out ahead, or others will sell the tickets at a price where they will get their deposit back and then some.

Its a great idea, but I think they better be careful who they are giving the deal to. There are going to be a pretty large number of people that will eat the deposit, or fight to get it back and scalp the WS tickets for big bucks. Thinking this policy will actually have a long-term effect on the team's attendance is being very short-sided I believe. It could boost their attendance what a 1,000 or so a game which is 81,000 while keeping the common die hard locked out of the big series, and making them hopeless of ever seeing a WS game in person. They have the right to grab all the bandwagon jumpers, but I really think they are being too short sided. The WS crowd is going to be season ticketholders who were fans enough not to sell, and corporate America. Being a season ticketholder I am thrilled I will be at every game, I just feel sorry for the fan who saves his or her pennies and won't be able to participate in what could be a once-in-a-lifetime experience.

I heard the United Center would be showing Sox playoff games on their screens. I think the Bulls have a game on one of the days though.

QUOTE(WinninUgly @ Oct 16, 2005 -> 09:17 PM) New nickname = Ground out Guerrero! Use the old Frank Thomas 2000 playoff joke, Who bats after Vlad? The White Sox.

How many times does he strike out looking with ducks on the pond?

He can't get a breaking ball over.

Pods did drive a run in with the bases loaded this year with a walk.