Dick Allen

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 07:55 PM) Who throws harder: Iguchi underhand or Willie overhand? A third option is Jim Parque. Parque is 3rd, the others are a toss up

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 07:53 PM) and so is she, according to people who've worked with her. He's not supposed to be a prince himself. They must be made for each other.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 07:51 PM) Tough life he has now, taking his millions and going home to Lisa Guerrero. Life's a b****

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 07:38 PM) ESPN NEWS TICKER!!! They said a minimum of 4-6 weeks. I don't wish injury on anyone, but I think thats a case of karma.

espnnews says he's going to be out a minimum of 4-6 weeks. Remember Jaime Burke? Karma's a b****, Torii.

I wonder how much beer vendors make on a steamy night with El Duque on the mound.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 05:21 PM) Manny's getting the treatment from Boston fans. He deserves it, the spoiled little baby. He can hit, though.

Didn't Manny say he wanted to be traded because of privacy issues? I know he would love to go to NY because one of the times he asked to be traded he popped off about wanting to be a Yankee. How would moving to NY take care of those privacy issues? He can hit, but he's a jackass.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 03:44 PM) NO! That's f***ing stupid. You don't trade Crede and put Huff in as a replacement, Crede is one of the reasons that the Sox have gotten this far, his defense has been absolutely stellar this season. Replacing him with Huff would be a GIANT downgrade defensively. Huff can not play 3B everday. Well, if they were to trade Crede, I'm sure they have another thirdbaseman they know they could get, I wouldn't think you would want Huff at 3rd regularly either. I would imagine they would go for Lowell, or maybe look to get Bell back from Philly as well. That's if there is any truth to this.

Will Carroll in Baseball Prospectus said the White Sox sweetened their offer to Philadephia for Wagner by throwing Crede in. It was McCarthy, Marte and now Crede. Maybe it means they would acquire Huff to play 3b. Maybe it isn't even true. But it is some new information.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 02:00 PM) with all his injuries does anybody think that because of all Frank's injuries that Sox could sign to like a Matt Morris type deal in the off-season. That's all he could hope for. Maybe like a base of $3 million with a lot of bonuses. This is assuming he isn't completely done. Frank is going to get a $3.5 million buyout. Considering 3 of the last 5 years his season has been cut short by major injuries, if he's able to play again, I doubt any team would guarantee him anywhere near $3 million . That is assuming Levine's report to be correct. Its also funny how people who have bought the White Sox "more balanced" offense bunk, are also going on and on about what a force Frank was this season. He was the ultimate all or nothing guy, that's all his body would allow him to do. It was basically a homerun, a strikeout, a pop out or a double play this year. Hopefully KW can get a legitimate #3 hitter in the next couple of days. The White Sox will be far better off with someone new than with Frank Thomas playing at 50-75%.

He also has a no trade and supposedly won't waive it unless he goes to the west coast. It ain't happening.

He also has a no trade and supposedly won't waive it unless he goes to the west coast. It ain't happening.

He also has a no trade and supposedly won't waive it unless he goes to the west coast. It ain't happening.

QUOTE(bigred3535 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) Even hitting .220 Frank is still a more valuable hitter than anyone else the Sox have. A hell of a lot better than Everett or Gload, for sure. I disagree. Unless he was going to be able to keep that homerun pace up.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 12:31 PM) if he re-fractured it after 7 months of rehab and playing for only for about 2 months, it may be time to hang them up. They mentioned the possibility of fusion surgery last winter. From what I was told fusion surgery would end his career.

They have been winning most of the season without Frank. This actually could be a blessing. He wasn't going to be 100% anyway, and except for the homeruns, really added nothing offensively. Now, it appears KW will be forced to add a bat. The chances are that bat would be more effective down the stretch and hopefully into the playoffs than what Frank would have been able to provide at his ankle's top condition this season.

You could see this coming. I wish it wasn't announced until after the deadline. KW's going to have to pay a little extra for a bat. Is there another break? I wouldn't be surprised if Frank is done.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 11:20 AM) Trading Crede, Rowand or even Politte are the things I worry about. Those moves will undoubtedly affect chemistry and alter the whole "Team" thing we have going on right now. If they are traded for better players, I'd take my chances on the chemistry thing. As far as feeling bad for guys when they are traded, they just need to suck it up and move along. The business is cold, but the players are paid handsomely for all their inconveniences. If they don't like it, there are plenty of people willing to take their place, and plenty of other things they can do with their lives.

He has missed events, that was mis-reported. He does have a problem with Sandberg going to the HOF though. I think because this is well known, its probably for the best that he's not there. You know that would be a huge topic.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 09:17 AM) wow, some people just dont get it, of course they care. if the team does better, they make more money. but the key here is that they dont want to spend money. youre right, they dont care if the team loses 100 as long as they get their money. BUT if the team can win 80 games, and ownership spends the same....lamarr and co. will make more money. so to say that they dont care at all if the team wins or not, but claim that they care about their money is complete ignorance I think the point was they are happy with the current situation, and wouldn't want to spend more money to make their team more attractive and increase their profit on the chance it may not work.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 09:12 AM) I'd be OK with Vegas.. might be relocating there PT in the near future and then I wouldn't spend so much $$ on travel to see games. OT.. woo hoo.. I'm going to B'more tonight. As soon as the NBA or MLB put a team there, the other one will follow. Its going to happen. If anyone has seen drawings of the proposed baseball stadium there, its has such a huge amount of suites, it looks like there are hardly any seats. Hangar18 of WSI would be outraged.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 09:05 AM) If it's relocation, Las Vegas probably makes the most sense for them. You could just have a 4 team AL East and a 5 team AL West, instead of a 5 team AL East and a 4 team AL West. There really is a shortage of cities to place a team. Las Vegas has to be at the top. Maybe Portland, that's about it. The one place I think that makes the most sense but I doubt it will ever happen is placing another team in NYC. And if the contract a team, they have to contract at least 2, can't have an odd number of teams in baseball like you can in the other sports.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 08:25 AM) Like I said earlier the majority of those blown saves will have come from when he's pitched more than 1 inning. 4/22 - 2.2 IP 5/13 - 2.2 IP 5/17 - 1.1 IP 5/30 - 1 IP 6/4 - 1.2 IP 6/8 - 1.1 IP 7/26 - 2 IP He also blew 10 saves with Cleveland in 2003. This guy is not who you want on the mound with the game on the line.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 08:20 AM) Jenks is the sexy new prospect. We get it. But, think outside the box folks. If you're able to use Jenks to acquire a guy like Wagner, you do it in half a heartbeat, no questions asked. We needs someone with veteran/post-season expierence and Jenks ain't it. I'm not saying the guy can't contribute this season, but he won't be able to contribute on the same level as say, Billy Wagner. If Jenks grew a shaggy beard, he be Bob James.