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QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 24, 2005 -> 05:41 PM) Because they are idiots. Flubs fans have only ever cared about the meaningless dinger every since the days of Sham-Me Sosa. I understand that. But this is Jason Dubois and the score is 12-2. Really, they are bigger idiots than we even thought they were.

What was the deal with the Cub fans going crazy when DuBois hit a homer? They're down 10 and you think they just won the World Series. Kudos to JR for bringing in some port a potties so those strokes can piss out their beer.

There's not a chance in hell. Whether its fair or not, he's burned so many bridges if he had hit 600 homers it probably would have taken him a few years to get in. The fact that he didn't win the MVP in 1995 is a travesty. I think the Hall of Fame vote would have gone the same way, if he had remained healthy.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jun 23, 2005 -> 01:40 PM) Why the panic with getting a starter? I don't think its panic. I'd be fine with sticking with BMac in the 5 spot until El Duque is fully recovered for the next month or so. I think its setting yourself up to win more than just a division championship, and getting yourself in great shape to advance in the post season. You look at the post season series, there are more days of in between and teams usually only have to use 3 starters the first round. But then the #4 guy comes up a couple times the second round. How huge would it be if the Sox were able to throw Garland or Buerhle or Garcia or a guy like Schmidt or Pettite or whoever else is going to be available against a team's #4 starter and still be able to match or better them in slots 1-3? Not to mention, picking up a stud prevents the opposition from acquiring him.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 23, 2005 -> 01:29 PM) All we need is a 5th starter if El Duque can't stay healthy. Our top four guys are all good enough. And let the other contenders pick up the #1 starter? The Sox should try and pick up the best starter available. This is turning into a year like no other. Going for a 5th starter-type is the kind of conservative style that will have the White Sox watching the World Series on television just like they have the past 45 years, and not winning one the past 88.

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Jun 23, 2005 -> 01:25 PM) There is no such thing as cheaper than Bill Wirtz I believe Pohlad actually is worth more than Wirtz. A couple years ago, his revenue sharing check was actually for more than his payroll. He also tried to get a big payout to have his team contracted and almost did. Even Wirtz has never stooped that low.

For as much as Pods is allegedly the catalyst of the White Sox offense, they are 7-3 or 7-4 in games in which he has not played.

If Schmidt is throwing 95 again, would SF trade him?

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Jun 23, 2005 -> 09:48 AM) Hahahahaha, funniest thing I've read all day. He's got to be the worst owner in baseball. He is cheaper than Bill Wirtz.

Its far from over, teams can go on big rolls. Houston last year for example. I was at the game Monday when they were running one of those this day in White Sox history things on the scoreboard. On June 20,1983 Lamar Hoyt pitched the Sox to victory, and moving them to within 2 games of the .500 mark. They finished 99-63.

Go early to Schaller's for a couple beers and ask them for a parking pass. You can park on the street for free.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jun 23, 2005 -> 07:23 AM) Considering his recent injury history, I'm not sure how Pettite is an upgrade over Duque. One way he is an upgrade is he is currently healthy. I don't know how anyone can be optimistic El Duque will be healthy at any point from now until the end of the season.

How about Andy Pettite? Does he have a no trade? I know he's coming off surgery, but it was the same surgery Billy Wagner had, and he regained his old form quickly. Pettite is 4-7 but his numbers look good other than that. He is playoff tested and supposed to be a terrific human being, and is signed through next season. I know one thing, if the Sox don't get another starter another team will, and that could make a difference around playoff time. Its time for JR and his partners and KW to totally go for it.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 10:17 PM) It just seems stupid to me to go after a guy who has struggled the entire season for his team and think that he'll come to the Sox and the Cell and pitch lights out. Randy Johnson wasn't very good with Seattle in 1998. Then gets traded to Houston and goes 10-1. Schmidt has been much better of late. I think this is the type of guy KW needs to acquire.

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QUOTE(Benchwarmerjim @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 08:43 PM) I wouldnt be looking ahead to who you play in the playoffs just yet. Just enjoy your run. Let the chips fall when they may Its easier to get let down when your team loses in the playoffs. Im not saying I hope the Sox lose to the Yanks int eh first round or anything, but we are not even to the All Star break Didn't Peter Gammons pick the Twins to win the World Series? That right there is a lot to overcome, maybe too much. I still look for them to make it interesting this year. The White Sox have a brutal August schedule.

Anyone still freaking out about Cleveland?

Brantley said on Sportscenter today he thinks the pitching staff can keep up its stellar performance. The windsock also got Hermanson's first name right for the first time ever, but referred to the player acquired from Seattle last year for Reed, Morse and Olivo as Freddy Guzman.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 03:34 PM) Getting a #1, #2 SP is far easier said than done. And not worth the price IMO. I think the sox would be hard pressed to find a SP out there who could better what Mark, Jon, Freddy and Jose can do. Plus, if El Duque can pitch, a 5th starter type could go to the bullpen. I know it is. KW has to be prepared to overpay. I have no faith in El Duque being healthy. He rested his arm the last month and a half of last season, and the winter, and lasted a third of a season. He then sits a couple of weeks and gets lit up 2 or 3 times, and his arm is tired again. Its not going to all of a sudden stop getting tired. This is probably the White Sox best opportunity to win a lot more than a division title in a long time. The money is supposedly there. They bring in a frontline starter, and they become the odds on favorites to win the World Series. Even ESPN personalities would have to jump on the bandwagon.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 03:25 PM) Where's Cory Lidle these days? That's another guy KW's loved. Maybe he doesn't see the point in trading for a Superstar pitcher. I don't see it. We just would need someone to help finish up the season and I think El Duque could get that done. He gets a #1 or #2 type starter, the Sox would be the most feared team in baseball, plus if they continue to build this lead in the division he could rest guys the second half. I'm not sold on El Duque in the playoffs. He's hurt, and I really don't think he's going to be in much better shape for the playoffs.

I sure hope KW is aiming a little higher than Ted Lilly.

I wonder if Brantley thinks "Chad" Hermanson belongs on the team.

I'd like the 3 or 4 Sox pitchers to make the All Star team. I'd also like to see them ride pine the whole game, so they get a little rest for the second half.

QUOTE(knightni @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 07:54 PM) He was a Rule 5 draft selection. Was last year his rule 5 year? No, its this year. I think they eventually want to make him a starter.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 07:53 PM) If they want him sent down, he goes back to the cubs right? He's not going down. Have you seen his numbers? Except for a couple outings against the Sox, the guy has been absolutely dominating.