Harry Chappas

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 10:51 AM) Shingo is not a "long" reliever. Adkins can give us 5 or 6 innings if we need someone to eat innings. Baj was mentioned as a long man earlier, yet he's been a closer all season, so he wouldn't qualify for that role either. How does Hermanson getting hurt require getting a long reliever? I would think that we would try to get Shingo back in order if we need a closer rather than try to create one with Jenks, Marte, Cotts, Polittee , etc. Of these guys Shingo has the experience for this the rest have failed in this capacity without ever having success. Do not mess with what they are doing well. Will he get the job done? Who knows but he has done it previously. Put Hermanson on the DL reinstate Shingo and go from there. In two weeks see what happens. This makes more sense that Jenks, Adkins, Baj etc.

Why not Shingo?

The wave aside, I have no preference although I do not do it, it does get the crowd going. They shoudl do it only between inning s and when the other team is batting. Last night was very interesting. I park on the street a few blocks away from the park and there were parties all throughout the neighbothood. The tailgatign was huge as well. It really felt like a Sturday. The crowd was also great, no fights and I am in the bleachers. Can't beat the Living on a Prayer sing along

QUOTE(ceffa2000 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 03:43 PM) How many tix sold for tomorrows? I'm going tomorrow and I'd love to see the place full. AS of yesterday, they had well over 30K a game except for tomorrow which was at 19.5K.

Let's see, some teams in dire need of bullpen help, Yankees, Red Sox.... I'd hate to see the frisbee come back to haunt us although I get the feeling there is an impending trade for a reliever, Eddie G. Seattle is a big Japanese hotbed and they have Ichiro. Shingo did well for us and I think this would be a good move for him. Wheather Iguchi and he are friends or not, they had a-lot in common and had to be friends. Somehow this had a big impact on Timo sticking around. This makes no sense.

How do Vizcaino and Jenks stay yet Shingo is let go. This does not make sense to me I really do not see how we are a better right now.

Imagine how many RBI Ordonez would have this year hitting fourth and how many Konerko has. I do not like Paul Konerko. With the guys he has in front of him he should have around 80 RBI not 60.

My point was more toward the accolades he seems to go out of his way to shower upon former teammates.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 06:28 AM) Konerko came to the Sox in 98 or 99. Who was a better player than Magglio since that time? Mark Buerhle or Royce Clayton

For tax purposes this is a charitable contribution for the the $10K less the fair value of the services provided. Seeing as JR does not do this for a living, there is $0 allocateed to him and they did not rent anything out nor is there a value for standing on the field so for this they get a $10K charitable contribution on their taxes. If they have money and were going to contribute to a charity anyway, what the hell. These things are all for White Sox charities correct? If they pay this and get some sort of reception, the fair market value of the reception is removed from the $10K.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 15, 2005 -> 10:48 AM) In a sense it would open up a spot for Ross Gload and I think to an extent Gload can do similar things to Carl Everett. Of course thats a rather large risk because I tend to think Carl is one of those guys that keeps the team loose (but I could be wrong). If Gload can do similar stuff for us as Everett why couldn't it do far more cheaping, younger and longer term for another team??? I think he may be the guy moved as he has to have something done with him by Monday as this is when his rehab stint ends.

I have yet to go watch JR play a baseball game so he personally never has nor will he ever affect my decisions regarding the white sox. Blame Schueler for the white flag, he made the f'ing trade. If you think JR can spearhead a full scale lock-out (94) your an idiot. This point has been beaten to death so far it is disgusting. The things he does for players, yes he pisses some off, and for the community as a whole is increadible. Blame him for the Balck Sox scandel while you are at it.

Boston with Schilling as a starter and Foulke closing is tough. We will not see this New York's rotation is a disaster. Cleveland is beatable, the toughest of the three but beatable. Relax and forget about the A's they are hot and we ae done with them.

A couple of things. Without selling another ticket, the Sox will draw 1.9M fans this season not bad. Do not confuse bandwagon fans with fans that are more willing to shell out dough because the team is winning. People that go to 0-3 game normally now are going to 5-7. As well as people with an option Navy Pier - Sox Game (families, tourist) are going to Sox game now rather than Navy Pier. That does not make them Bandwagon fans. I was at 21 games last year. This year I have been to 19 and have 10 more games in hand, will end up around 35-40. Did I hop on the bandwagon. There are different levels of fandom.

No one is confusing Konerko with Keith Hernandez. Yesterday was nice. I like Konerko and wish he earned his $10M. If he and Thomas at the end of the year put up numbers worthy of $10M/season. We will walk away with this divison.

I have been posting this since mid April. ANY other REASONABLE (Dye, Everett, Crede, Uribe, AJ, Rowand) player on this team would ahve better numbers than konerko. He was a main reason we failed in 2003 and is keeping the offfense stagnant this year. Look at the runs Pods and Iguchi have scored and look at konerko's numbers. He is there to drive these guys in and he does it by default not because he is a good hitter. He can scoop really well and throw but has zero range. As for next year, Thomas, Dye, Gload and Everett are your RF, 1B, DH combos next year unless konerko takes $24M/6. The pressure is on him as Thomas and he are the only FA's of note in the offseason and a-lot of arb eligibles. Who do you think they will resign????? If konerko isn't a clubhouse leader, you need to be in there to decide this answer, I feel he will be gone to the Braves or Mets (Doug M.)???????? Lee plays everyday for the cubs and he is carrying his weight, why can't konerko?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 11:05 AM) You could also look at this another way. Sox could keep Zach Day as the 5th starter, allowing them to package one of Cont or Duque and some prospects to another team for a pitcher and than be able to lock up said pitcher to a long term deal (ie AJ Burnett). You give up a guy like Duque, and two good prospects and a mid-level for Burnett. Sox than insert Day into the 5th spot (they still have Bmac as the potential 6th guy cause he's the one guy you don't ever offer...also who knows if Florida would accept) and than you now free up 4.5 million or so that Duque was set to make, meaning that you only really increase payroll by 5.5 million and offer AJ 10 mill a year. They could also do this to acquire another player who may have a higher salary. Just throwing it out there. I think the fragile psyche of Count and Duque make them fixtures in some regard. I also do not think a team will take on their salary. I get the feeling the Yanks are paying a good chunck of Count's salary which keeps him cheap for us.

Willie Harris and Joe Borchard would look good. Zach Day can pitch. Stat - Hernandez is 7-2. This makes him a top pitcher in the AL as far as win % goes. He is not a top pitcher in reality though. Borchard is out of options and red hot. They lose him for nothing if he does not stick at the ML level next year. He could be a monster in Colorado. Harris can play OF (speed) or second/short for them.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 8, 2005 -> 02:47 PM) I think he meant to put an "or" in there... or perhaps they consider the ones right next to the cf wall obstructed since you can't see a play in rf from some of those seats. I believe next to the CF structure in the bleachers is obstructed view, you are next to a wall basically, I could be wrong.

Schilling is a closer because he can't start at this point. If Schilling were the old Schilling he would be the starter. Arroyo or Clement would close if really needed before Schilling. Schilling's ankle strength is more important then Thomas, he pushes off, Thomas can still hit using one leg and two huge arms without risking injury, unlike Schilling who if he has to use all arm is done. Now on to the real story. I sat behind the bullpen and Bobby Jenks is HUGE. He makes Cliff look like a wee little thing. He almost looks like a cartoon character. I wouldn't say he is fat though he is just big. I would like to see him next to thomas. The guy has electric stuff and that is reason to be excited. His motion is effortless with big time explosion. If he was on Boston there would have been a story on him on the Sox.... Two years ago he (or a guy like him) would've come in given up three hits a walk and need to be bailed out and never heard from again. There is something in the air. A starter is rolling and Ozzie pulls him for no other reason than to get the bull pen work. Contrearas only threw 85 pitches. Nuts but oh so much fun. The Scott P announcement was incredible, team unity, Hermie runs out before the 4th to give him a huge, as did Rowand and Everett on the way to their positions. A RF plays really good 1B. Awesome. Captain Jenks.......he is no phony phone call

What is his OBP? Why isn't this conversation about the lack of production form the 4 slot?

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 10:29 AM) I understand that stats are not the end all be all of baseball but are they not an indicator of what is going on? To supposedly have a lot of speed in your lineup with Podsednik, Iguchi, Rowand, and Uribe, and still being ranked last in doubles and triples in the MLB shows something is going on. Doesn't it? I'm not saying that those guys are swinging for the fences but I do think that the rest of the lineup is. Also, demeaning someone about their baseball knowledge when you are having a simple discussion doesn't strengthen your argument. No Pods goal, get on base (single/walk) and steal thus getting a double without swinging for the fences. Then Iguchi is to get him over. The problem with this though is that Konerko is hitting .150 when they are in scoring position he is the guy that is keeping the offense down as he is relied to be the major run producer and although he is getting guys in, he should have more. Other than that there are no other issues I see with the team.

Isn't a breavement call up free against all options and can last from 3 - 6 days? If so, why not Jenks? Give him a taste of what he can have if he stays clean, incentive if you will. Baj or Jenks most likely will only pitch in mop up if/when either are called up this season. They fall behind every pitcher we have without question except maybe Vizcaino in the pen. No ML talent will be moved for them unless Viz or Shingo fall completely apart. Interesting though that each were extended further than normal with scouts watching.

The stupidist thing about this post is the fact that to clinch on Sept. 6, would the Sox need to have about a 20+ game lead, would they not?

There was a forum set up for everything baseball and someone that has become a 40 page thread within the forum that has interesting stuff and all new threads are well I have nothing good to say about most new threads. I would rather see a new thread for Schmidt and a discussion of his impact as well a different one for Zito and Burnett. If these new threads are wortheless they are on the next page within a couple of hours. Now the same worthless thread, sits out there for a day and you are left scrolling through 5 to 6 pages to read anything worth a damn.