Everything posted by StrangeSox
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16 Illegals sue Arizona Rancher for $32M
Tex, "trash trails" left by illegal immigrants are a problem in some areas. Just do a google image search for "illegals trash trail" and you'll get a bunch of examples on the first page. 10" of trash isn't much when you consider how big containers are. http://www.svherald.com/articles/2008/02/1...57685580412.txt
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The Republican Thread
QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Feb 10, 2009 -> 02:47 PM) And in his first month has called out Rush and Hannity by name on seperate occasions. Imagine if Bush had called out Randi Rhodes or any other Air America host by name? Petty indeed. People would be scratching their heads because they never heard of them before.
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16 Illegals sue Arizona Rancher for $32M
QUOTE (Texsox @ Feb 10, 2009 -> 02:04 PM) Because I live down here. Because I have met hundreds of illegals. Because I have friends that originally came to this country illegally. Because I have seen the vigilantes. And you based who you believe on???? I don't believe either of them. But, really, the fact that you've met hundreds of illegals doesn't matter unless one of them were there to witness it. How good of people they are has no bearing on these 16 individuals. Keep putting words in peoples' mouths and making emotional arguments. From the post above yours: Now, IF IF IF he did kick that woman, he should be charged with the appropriate assault/ battery charges. Maybe some amount of money goes her way. Now please justify $32M for being kicked.
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16 Illegals sue Arizona Rancher for $32M
QUOTE (Texsox @ Feb 10, 2009 -> 01:44 PM) This Sheriff was allowing someone to hold a rifle on the group. Then watched as the guy kicked a woman. Perhaps that is acceptable in Chicago, but I doubt it. QUOTE (Texsox @ Feb 10, 2009 -> 01:49 PM) How far is he entitled to go? The Sheriff was there and allowed the man to kick a woman and continue to hold a rifle on them. Allegedly. Think they might be enticed to exaggerate or lie in order to win $32M? You're relying on the words of the illegals over the rancher because ? Please tell me you don't actually think that's a valid comparison. "Kick ass" = patrols his property and turns in illegals. Good for him. Now, IF IF IF he did kick that woman, he should be charged with the appropriate assault/ battery charges. Maybe some amount of money goes her way. $32M? Slippery slope to vigilante mass murders of illegals? Those are both a bit of a stretch. Please be less condescending next time.
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The environment thread
QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 10, 2009 -> 01:15 PM) OK, so really, its not email - its a spam box. What other purpose could it possibly have? If you want email from someone, you trade email addresses. There is a zero percent chance I ever sign up for something like this. Why would I want more spam? Exactly. If I want paperless statements from my bank, I sign up for it and provide my email. Why would I want another place for unsolicited offers?
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16 Illegals sue Arizona Rancher for $32M
QUOTE (Texsox @ Feb 10, 2009 -> 11:27 AM) Perhaps the dirty diapers tipped you off to the danger? These are people looking to walk 300 miles for a minimum wage job at some restaurant or farm. Don't worry about the drug supply for Illinois, that arrives in semi's and on airplanes. Remember they are walking, they aren't carrying massive quantities of drugs. That doesn't matter and you're trying to argue from an emotional stance here. It doesn't matter what they were doing. They were on his property illegally. He has had his home broken into and his property littered by people there illegally before. They have no more right to be there than the drug runners. Let me know the first time that happens, and I'll be right there with you demanding he goes to jail for life. Otherwise, I'll continue to support a person's right to protect their property from criminals.
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16 Illegals sue Arizona Rancher for $32M
QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 9, 2009 -> 02:58 PM) How can they claim a violation of civil rights? They aren't even American citizens. That makes no sense to me at all. Non-citizens on US soil, even those here illegally, still have civil rights. They're subject to the same laws as you and I.
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Alex Rodriguez tested postive for steroids in 2003; Admits It
QUOTE (lostfan @ Feb 9, 2009 -> 02:55 PM) Yes he's a liar and a cheater, but so are I don't know how many other players too. Just come clean. It doesn't make it ok, but it removes that cloud from you. It would be more honorable to come clean before you're outed than after you're caught red-handed.
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16 Illegals sue Arizona Rancher for $32M
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/f...rizona-rancher/
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"Stimulus" Bill Thread
QUOTE (mr_genius @ Feb 5, 2009 -> 03:16 PM) I like the things listed there. The GOP should vote for that (unless there is trillions in BS spending on top of those tax cuts). But I need a reliable source on this, TPM is basically a joke. Like a lot of the "stimulus" bill, I think those are good ideas but they're just not stimuli.
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Obama's Cabinet and Staff
Another Obama nominee has tax issues (well, her husband): http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/0...ml?hpid=topnews Solis Senate Session Postponed in Wake of Husband's Tax Lien Revelations Updated 3:30 p.m. By Michael A. Fletcher A Senate committee today abruptly canceled a session to consider President Obama's nomination of Rep. Hilda Solis to be labor secretary in the wake of a report saying that her husband yesterday paid about $6,400 to settle tax liens against his business -- including liens that had been outstanding for as long as 16 years. The report, by USA Today, came just before the Senate's Health Education Labor and Pensions Committee was slated to meet to consider Solis's nomination, which had been delayed by questions over her role on the board of the pro-labor organization American Rights at Work. A source said that committee members did not learn about the tax issue until today. "Today's executive session was postponed to allow members additional time to review the documentation submitted in support of Representative Solis's nomination to serve in the important position of Labor Secretary," read a joint statement issued by Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.), the panel's chairman, and Mike Enzi (Wyoming), the committee's ranking Republican. "There are no holds on her nomination and members on both sides of the aisle remain committed to giving her nomination the fair and thorough consideration that she deserves. We will continue to work together to move this nomination forward as soon as possible." No new date has been set for the hearing. The disclosure about Solis's husband comes after tax problems caused trouble for three of Obama's top appointees, leading two of them -- HHS-nominee Tom Daschle and Nancy Killefer, who was to be chief performance officer -- to withdraw. Asked about the USA Today report at the White House daily briefing, press secretary Robert Gibbs emphasized that the nominee's tax returns are in order. "Well, I read the story in USA Today, and it quotes somebody that works here, so obviously we've -- we know about this story. I'll say this. We reviewed her tax returns, and her tax returns are in order," said Gibbs. "The story denotes that her husband had some issues with paying a business tax, and obviously that tax is -- should be paid. He's -- she's not a partner in that business, Gibbs continued. "So we're not going to penalize her for her husband's business mistakes. Obviously, her husband, I think, has and should pay any taxes that he owes. "
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Treasury overpaid for bank stocks
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9...;show_article=1 WASHINGTON (AP) - A government watchdog group says the federal government overpaid for stocks and other assets from financial institutions under its $700 billion rescue program. The chairwoman of the Congressional Oversight Panel for the bailout funds told the Senate Banking committee Thursday that Treasury in 2008 paid $254 billion and received assets worth about $176 billion. The figures were reached by extrapolating the results of a study of 10 government transactions. The Treasury by Jan. 23 had spent about $294 billion on more than 300 companies under the Troubled Asset Relief Program. In one bright spot, the inspector general in charge of reviewing the funds said the federal government has received more than $271 million in dividends from preferred shares obtained through the program.
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LOST!!!!
QUOTE (DBAHO @ Feb 5, 2009 -> 09:42 AM) Someone came up with the theory that Miles was Pierre Chang's son. That makes a whole lot of sense to me. One of my friends said that last night. Why else would they bother to show him with a baby? Lost doesn't typically include things like that for no reason.
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A 93-year-old man froze to death inside his home
QUOTE (Texsox @ Jan 28, 2009 -> 05:02 PM) Death penalty cases Killing a child Killing a cop $1000 in unpaid electric bills Perhaps some here could throw the switch that killed that man, but I could not. Then donate to or start a charity that helps the poor pay for the services they use. Don't force every other user to cover their costs.
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WWSTD?
Fair enough. Either way, its results in a more efficient use of resources.
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LOST!!!!
QUOTE (Nixon @ Feb 5, 2009 -> 08:14 AM) I was really disappointed with last night's episode. Between the Jack/Kate suck-fest it looks like they're playing up the Juliet/Sawyer love angle too, no doubt to culminate into some awkward LOVE RHOMBUS by the time Jack/Kate return to the island (you guys could just become swingers, you know?). Not a fan of Jin being alive either... so what, he's been floating on open ocean for a couple of hours, washed ashore and now looks like Clint Eastwood in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly? It seems like a ham-fisted way of bringing Sun back to the "GOOD" faction vs Widmore's "BAD GUYS"... Let's see where it goes I guess... Kate's "I've always been with you" line was so cheesy it made me cringe.
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The environment thread
Rooftop wind turbine, coming soon to a Costco near you! http://www.physorg.com/news152460451.html
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WWSTD?
QUOTE (mreye @ Feb 4, 2009 -> 07:34 PM) Look back. I brought that up. Here I was responding to someone suggesting we would save on the cost of prosecutors themselves. Less crimes to prosecute leads to less prosecutors, I would think.
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According to Biden, it is patriotic to pay taxes.
How do you rack up $120k in taxes on a driver and car in 3 years, anyway?
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Every month 500 million lose jobs
It's funny, but maybe better to post in the catch-all Republican thread?
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Video Game Catch-All Thread
Is that website a case of "Poe's Law"? http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law
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Obama's Cabinet and Staff
There's a difference between personal financial gain and wanting your party to keep control of the seat. They aren't even remotely close. That commentary doesn't cite any sort of legal opinion, decisions, codes, anything. Just some whining about Democrats not getting the 60th seat out of this. I don't see anything wrong with Gregg making sure that his party isn't politically neutered by his accepting the position. In fact, I would hope that any governor would choose someone from the same party as the person they're replacing. Russ Feingold may have a valid point that states should go with special elections instead of appointments, but that raises its own issues.
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WWSTD?
QUOTE (mreye @ Feb 4, 2009 -> 08:41 AM) I'm not saying I'm on the side of legalizing it, but... Is that 7 billion in Federal dollars? The state and cities also tax cigarettes. And the savings would not only be from dope law enforcement, but how many people are in prison, draining tax dollars just for possession that would in turn be free to go? Don't forget prosecution costs.
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"Stimulus" Bill Thread
QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 3, 2009 -> 09:16 PM) yes, terrorist attacks would've helped democrats, eh? You all remember this past decade so well. Terrorist attacks is wrong; continued troubles in the Iraq war would be more accurate. How many times did we hear over the past 5 years from right-wing blowhards that Dems wanted America to fail?
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"Stimulus" Bill Thread
QUOTE (mr_genius @ Feb 3, 2009 -> 03:30 PM) Thats like sayign the Democrats were hoping for terrorists attacks in the United States during the Bush term so they can stay relevant. This. It's funny watching all of the arguments turn 180* from where they were. I'd say that most discussions aren't arguments or debates, but apologetics for one political party or ideology.