StrangeSox

Not to mention that the arguments originally given for making marijuana illegal were ridiculously racist.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 24, 2008 -> 11:23 AM) I don't see how you can think he didn't intend to hit Bush. The shoe sailed right where Bush's head was, if he hadn't quickly (and, I must admit, deftly) dodged it. I agree completely. If Bush had been looking to the side that second instead of ahead, it would have hit him squarely in the face. If he had lobbed the shoes at the podium, that would be one thing, but it is obvious to me that he meant to hit Bush.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 11:07 AM) <!--quoteo(post=1814667:date=Dec 23, 2008 -> 08:41 AM:name=ChiSox_Sonix)-->QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 08:41 AM) <!--quotec-->If an American spit at the leader of Russia or China I would absolutely expect jail time. The respective countries would probably say it was a humiliating act to their country and was a sign of disrespect. And, despite what may be the feelings of the majority of the population, the government would feel compelled to send a message that such an action is not tolerated and that leaders of other countries must be shown respect and courtesy when on our soil and in the presence of our leaders. I would be shocked if the person did not spend a bit of time on jail. That's clearly the same as malicious intent to injure.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 01:20 AM) Great, great win. Hey, who would have thought we would be playing meaningful football in week 17 at the beginning of the season? As for the QB talk, Orton has been terrible lately, but he's not the only problem. The bears have the worst receiving corps in the NFL and a terrible O-line. I would love for Jeremy Maclin to be available when we draft. I still wouldn't mind adding a QB in the first few rounds of the draft (Nate Davis is a guy I like). It looks like Orton still isn't throwing off of his back foot very hard. Maybe the injury is still hampering him somewhat. That doesn't explain why he was staring down receivers and throwing the ball directly to Woodson, though.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 07:57 AM) tax incentives to the consumer, as exist for hybrid and alt-energy vehicles, increase demand, which lowers prices. I might only have a couple of college econ courses, but doesn't rising demand (without a simultaneous rise in supply) raise prices? Costs will come down, but cars aren't exactly like DVD players or TV's. Hybrids still command a significant premium over non-hybrid versions.

The unaired "24" pilot from 1994 (spoof, obviously). http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1788161

QUOTE (SpringfieldFan @ Dec 20, 2008 -> 08:08 PM) Point taken, and to be honest I was surpised his numbers hadn't appreciably dropped. However, the argument to me was whether the cause for Jenks' drop in velocity was strategic or physical (injury). I don't believe it was strategic because he could still keep the basic "strategy" yet reserve the 100mph for at least a handful of special occasions (i.e. Gathright). But yes, he remains as effective as ever at closing games. Well, maybe not as effective as in WS05, but that was obviously as tiny "sample size". IIRC, he was hitting high 90's in several games to close out the year. I don't have a problem with Bobby dialing it down a bit (as long as he remains effective, which he has) during most of the year in order to preserve his arm. It's better for him and its better for the Sox.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 22, 2008 -> 04:32 PM) The Volt. Are you ready to fork over as much as $40k for a mid-sized non-luxury car?

I luv you Matt Forte.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 22, 2008 -> 10:06 PM) For as much s*** as I talk about Ron Turner, this offense has exceeded my expectations by quite a bit. Which isn't saying a whole lot, but is still something. He doesn't exactly have a lot of talent to work with here. Thank you for making my point, Marty Booker.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 22, 2008 -> 05:03 PM) The remarkable thing about these things is not that people get things wrong. It's that the people who keep consistently getting things wrong also keep getting promoted. Or air time/ print space. Seriously, has Kristol been right about anything in the past decade? And yet he's still on TV week-in, week-out.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 22, 2008 -> 09:59 PM) Except for that one game early in the season where he was a 6'5" turd. Hopefully that just ends up being the worst game of his career. Otherwise, Olsen is great, and Clark is also good so he's a luxury. Yeah, I guess we had consistently good performances from guys we expect, like Briggs and Gould. I was just contrasting how I feel at the end of this Bears season to how I felt at the end of the Sox season this year. I was/ am optimistic about the Sox because we had the emergence of Danks, Floyd, Rameriz and The Carlos Quentin. I don't have any optimistic feelings about the Bears.

Aside from Forte, have we really had any positives come out of this season?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 22, 2008 -> 09:53 PM) How about a running game? The 1-2 yard run on first down doesn't do it for you?

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 22, 2008 -> 09:51 PM) No doubt in my mind that Rex is better than Orton right now. If Orton's coming back next year, I can only pray his terrible 2nd half this season is due to the injury. Rex was no better than what Kyle's doing now. Don't kid yourself. They're both mediocre-bad QB's.

A) Will this team ever have a good QB? B) How many good QB's (ones who can throw more than 30 yards) wish they had Hester running deep routes on their team?

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 22, 2008 -> 11:43 AM) Didn't Warren compare being gay to incest and Pedophilia? Here's a full quote on that. He didn't equate being gay with incest and pedophilia directly, but they're lumped into the same group of "marriages I think are wrong." You can point out that he's wrong about a "5,000 year definition of marriage," but that's another topic. “I’m opposed to redefinition of a 5,000 year definition of marriage. I’m opposed to having a brother and sister being together and calling that marriage. I’m opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that marriage. I’m opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that marriage.” -Rick Warren, Pastor of Saddleback Church, December 15, 2008 Obama won because of moderates. They make up the bulk of the people who voted for him. He's running to his biggest constituency. From CNN's exit polling. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1 Political self-identification and Percentage voting for Obama Liberals (22%) 89% Moderates (44%) 60% Conservatives (34%) 20%

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 21, 2008 -> 07:32 PM) Obama must hate gays. Who is saying or even implying that?

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 21, 2008 -> 06:47 PM) Warren got chosen because of his book. Simple as that. Well, yeah, but you asked for a prominent Evangelical who isn't anti-gay. Wallis' book did pretty well from what I remember, and he doesn't hate gays.

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 21, 2008 -> 12:40 PM) Good luck finding a recognizable religious figure to do your invocation who isn't anti-gay. How about Jim Wallis? I've heard a few people mention his name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Wallis I'd rather not have a young-earth creationist & anti-gay guy doing this, but I honestly don't care all that much.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Dec 20, 2008 -> 03:13 PM) LOL, do you ever watch him pitch? I don't give a s*** what the stats say, Jenks has become more hittable every single year. It's just a matter of time before hitters catch up. You don't care about the stats (read: actual results of baseball games/ plays) because they directly contradict your bulls*** assertions. QUOTE (SpringfieldFan @ Dec 20, 2008 -> 03:49 PM) Just because his stats didn't worsen with the drop in velocity doesn't mean the drop in velocity had a role in that. The stats may well have been even better if he still used the same heat. Basically, these numbers tell me that whatever effectiveness he lost from the drop in velocity was made up for elsewhere, lets say for the sake of argument by knowing hitters tendencies better now. Well, isn't it a shame he doesn't have the added effectiveness from knowing hitters better as well as his original velecity? Sure, we'd all love a Bobby Jenks who can pitch exactly as he did last year and a 100 MPH fastball with movement, but that's not the argument. The argument that some are trying to make is that his drop in velocity over the past two seasons are a clear indication that he's becoming less effective when the exact opposite is true.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 20, 2008 -> 04:56 PM) We stop lying to ourselves and actually pay attention to the measurements that show the exact opposite. Get out of here with your precious science and facts! What about the sunspot contention (more sunspots lately = rise in temperatures on Earth, Mars, etc.)?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 12:42 PM) I don't think we are reading the same things because I still see problems lending money all over the place. I keep seeing companies and projects frozen because of lending problems. Every day on NPR is a story about how great rates are right now but how you need a 750+ score to qualify. I've also noticed significantly less CC junk mail the past several months. I have to agree with everyone who is saying that the auto industry is an entirely different animal than the auto industry. If the US banking system failed, I'd imagine it would quickly spark a deep, world-wide depression.

7-10 inches more of snow today, plus 1/2" of ice. Anyone who likes winter should die a slow, painful death.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 17, 2008 -> 08:58 AM) LINK LOL. I wonder if anyone puts "Warcraft Clan Leader" on their resume.