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QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 09:27 AM) The post wasn't about general political corruption/shadiness/dishonesty. It was about the new levels of crazy Trump is reaching, like bashing the families of fallen heroes. Hell, we have a clear-cut comparison on this specific topic. Pat Smith, stepmother of one of the guys killed in Benghazi, publicly and directly accused Hillary Clinton of causing her stepson's death in her speech during the RNC. Hillary responded with: That's it. The controversy was done at that point, really. She didn't respond by attacking Smith relentlessly for days, questioning her allegiance or her spouse or anything like that. Compare that to how Trump continues to respond to Khan, as if Khan had accused Trump of causing his son's death.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 06:59 PM) Not voters. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/polit...inton.html?_r=0 http://www.salon.com/2016/08/02/i_think_tr...illary_clinton/ http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016...Congress-follow Conservative politicians and pundits who really didn't like Romney as a first choice didn't jump ship either, though, because as Obama said, nobody really questioned that Romney would be capable of doing the job--it was a debate on policy. Trump represents something unique in American politics, as these people defecting are pointing out, and we have never seen an equivalent Democratic nominee for a comparison. If Kanye West wins the Democratic nomination in 2024 and no prominent Democrats refuse to back him, you'll have a point. Until then, there simply isn't any data to back up a ~*both sides*~ argument one way or the other. Stop trying to normalize Donald Trump and his behavior.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 09:10 AM) Do you spank it when you do this? I need to know. It's buried pages back at this point, but illinilaw had a very solid response the last time someone tried to say Trump and Clinton were equally bad. here it is: QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 05:33 PM) To me, the biggest problem with this election is that there is a false equivalency being made that states Clinton and Trump are opposite sides of the same coin. That cannot be further from the truth. Whether you like the Clintons or not, Hillary Clinton has not called to stop all Muslims from immigrating to the US. Hillary Clinton has not called Mexicans "rapists" and "murderers." Hillary Clinton has not threatened to back out of NATO because other countries aren't pulling their weight. Hillary Clinton has not wished for the glory days when you could rough up protesters, or offered to pay the legal bills of a guy who punched a protester. Hillary Clinton has not invited a foreign country to hack her competitor and influence the election. In this forum, we have had people laugh off Trump's comments. He's joking! He's talking about an unlikely scenario! This election isn't a simple difference in political philosophies (though that exists - the idea of Trump appointing multiple Supreme Court justices is terrifying). This is about an election where the Republican nominee's temperament makes him singularly unqualified to hold the highest office in the country. This isn't Romney, McCain, either of the Bushes, Reagan, etc. where I disagree with their philosophy on governance or social issues. It's something more than that. Simply put, Donald Trump is a special kind of bad in Presidential politics in my lifetime. If you live in a swing state, please pay attention to the polls. A vote for anyone other than Hillary Clinton in those states is a vote for Trump. Or more pithily, as conservative author PJ O'Rourke put it: Trump is wrong in ways that are far, far outside of the "normal parameters" of policy disagreement. As someone who's perhaps biggest reservation about Clinton is her hawkishness, I still feel entirely comfortable with her in control of nuclear weapons. Can anyone trying to pull a both-sides argument say the same about Donald "I must respond to every slight,perceived or real, no matter how small for days on end" Trump?

She is not actually doing the same things as Trump, though. If you or ss2k5 or anyone else is going to try to make that argument, I'll ask you to actually make a more detailed comparison rather than just a throw-away "a pox on both houses!" line. QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 08:10 AM) LOL, this is next level #BothSides. She's doing all the same things, but it's all being hidden so we can't see it! Hillary Clinton has the Illuminati on her side. She is literally Satan so

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 07:38 AM) And watching someone still trying to pretend it's not both sides at this point is just sadder. If you can't see a Grand Canyon-sized gap between Clinton and Trump when it comes to the question of qualified to hold office, there is something wrong with your brain.

watching someone still trying to pull the "both sides!" gambit at this point is just sad

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This is definitely one of those "horror face" moments: Voices From Donald Trump’s Rallies, Uncensored Garbage Candidate for Garbage People is too kind, really.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 01:12 PM) Also, his argument is that a team shouldn't "intend to lose games". Well, obviously. No one is suggesting that Robin is telling the players to throw the games. But as a fan who has no impact on the team, I am HOPING they lose every game. I also wish that they would have traded away at least a few pieces, which would make them more likely to lose games in the short term. I don't think anyone is calling for them to intentionally throw the games.

Conservatives trying to make the "OMG Iran secret $400M airlift!" a thing just look sad. This has been a part of the Iran deal from the start, it's actually their money that we've been holding since 1979, and the NYT reported on this back in January. The GOP can't help but overreach to try to distract from their own dumpster fire.

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) As others have said, I just don't see how this gets to November. It's getting worse every day. When there isn't a Simpsons .gif, there's a Futurama one! My daily reaction to Trump's insanity Realistically, there's no way Trump's ego would let him be a loser quitter, and there's not really much the GOP can do at this point to force him out. I think there only choices are to try to back him as much as possible and pray that he finally pivots, or essentially abandon the Presidency and attempt to salvage what they can in the downticket races. An unlikely tag-team of first Trump and then Obama have really put the Republican leadership in a bind, though. Obama's called on them to denounce and unendorse Trump thanks to his dangerous, hateful, unhinged rhetoric, but they've stuck by him for months despite having to disavow lots of specific things he's said/done. If they try to pull the plug on him now, it looks like they're doing it in response to Trump not endorsing fellow GOP leaders and not over his crazy stuff, so they look pretty craven. They've maneuvered themselves into a horrible position, and John Boehner has to be the happiest man alive right now.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 12:50 PM) He didn't thread his tweets unfortunately so you have to read this bottom to top. I have to imagine the likely outcome of that scenario is that it invokes a constitutional crisis when the military refuses to carry out his insane orders.

We already have at least one potential faithless elector

I can only assume Priebus means Trump here, right? we now have confirmation that Trump does, in fact, have tiny little baby hands. I'm 6'3", his hands are a full 1 1/4" shorter than mine, I would look ridiculous with hands that small.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 11:07 PM) Hillary Clinton accepts 25 million dollar donation from George Soros, the same day she pledges to get the money out of politics. Soxtalk will defend this. Trump raised ~$80M in July, which is actually a solid number. I know you claimed that him getting money out of politics was a big reason you supported him.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 11:28 AM) Huelskamp went down in Kansas. That's great news, it's like losing someone like Gohmert. I remember he had a pretty spectacular meltdown on Maddow's show after the State of the Union one night where he embarrassed himself pretty bad (if feeling embarrassment was possible for him). Although he got replaced by a Trump supporter soooooo Some additional info: http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-go...le93406217.html The "Brownback revolution" aka "how quickly and thoroughly can I burn a state to the ground" is being rejected.

A couple of Tea Party people, the Lt. Governor and a current US Rep, lost their primaries in Missouri last night to candidates to their left. It'll be interesting to see how GOP leaders react if they stop having to fear facing a crazy right-wing insurgency in every district.

You guys don't understand, prospects and draft picks are actually bad and there's no reason to have them around.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) Well we are capable of doing that with hospitals. I actually don't think it will be that hard but will be fairly unforgiving so I'm sure there will be grumblings from higher ed. 125k is a nice cut off, will be good to see a gov't program that cuts across wide swath. Easier to get more cross aisle buy in. As a hard cut-off though? If I were making 125.01K household income, I'd be begging my bosses for a paycut for at least those four years.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 10:47 AM) This has to be on purpose. Probably not. His campaign is just this unprofessional, understaffed and incompetent and lead by a man who thinks he needs no advice and doesn't take it when offered. Though you do have to ask how what Trump's doing would look different from someone deliberating trying to sabotage the GOP. Kelly Ayotte is a Republican running in NH who won't endorse Trump. Trump is not running against her, and her poll numbers in her race are higher than Trump's in his. He's getting smashed so badly in his own race that he's left still bragging about his primary wins and about races he's not actually running in.

Loudoun County is actually the wealthiest county in the entire country.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 10:29 AM) I mean the numbers are still very low and I agree there's a sense of overreaction here. But at the same time, when it comes to kids, that's what we do. Odds are low you'll ever get in a car crash but you still use a car seat and buckle your kids in every time. Odds are low that your infant will succumb to SIDS, but you still make them sleep on their backs and get special, breathable fabrics. At some point, even if the risk is 1%, it's just not going to be worth that awful reality later that you could have prevented it. QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 10:29 AM) Also, an underrated movie IMO. I really liked it. I should go back and watch it again and see if it holds up. Oh yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you at all there. It's not worth the risk. I'd be curious to see how CoM holds up, too.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 10:05 AM) Re: college tuition. Looks like that proposal could go two ways. Handling things like Fannie Mae/Mac or handle things like Medicaid. I like the idea of wielding around this group of students like a bargaining chip to prevent costs rising too high. I really would like a bipartisan coalition though with this. Free tuition is going to require iteration on seeing the unknown effects and handling them (as does a major bill like health care), and that will be difficult to do if one party is just going to openly sabotage it. Plus, depending on the model, it's going to be a challenge to make it work equally across all 50 states. Directional North Dakota U is a heck of a lot cheaper than PSU, so how do you handle that sort of discrepancy? The little talk I've heard of the plan is something like "free tuition for households making up to $125k." I wonder if that proposal is a hard cut-off at $125k or if it'd phase out. I'm assuming it'd phase out, but that'd still be interesting to see.

Zika setting up a potential "Children of Men" scenario here

Does anyone have some decent breakdowns of some of Clinton's bigger policy proposals like the college plan and the childcare plans?