StrangeSox

"At least our candidate isn't a Giant Orange Racist Baby" is a fine selling point.

I posted this same article in the stanford thread because it's directly relevant there, but it's also relevant to all of the nonsense some are trying to peddle about Trump's comments not really being racist maybe or how liberals are the real racists because they acknowledge that racism exists. http://mimesislaw.com/fault-lines/brock-tu...re-impact/10288

Pretty solid article on this from Ken White (the Popehat blog guy/lawyer) BROCK ALLEN TURNER: THE SORT OF DEFENDANT WHO IS SPARED “SEVERE IMPACT” Better to read the whole thing to get the full impact rather than an excerpt.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 02:01 PM) The Head of the Judiciary Chair of the Republican party, ladies and gentleman: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gras...yor-wise-latina Noted non-racist Pat Buchanan was also pushing this line. In a damage control conference call a few days ago, Trump directed his surrogates to double-down on his remarks and accuse the media of being the real racists for questioning Trump. This whole thing is just a completely unforced error, too. That Trump U was a big scam was going to be in the media, but the judge wasn't (and hasn't been) saying anything about Trump. Trump is so pathetically thin-skinned that he just had to lash out, and since then he's been unable to simply shut up about it. It's only the first full week of June and we've already hit "historic political gaff" levels. I guess we'll see exactly how much anything really mattes anymore if Trump can weather this storm plus Trump U plus guaranteed multiple future episodes.

I can't believe trump thought this «98% approval! " website was a good idea. http://www.98percentapproval.com/ Read up on some of those reviews. It makes it so obvious that it was just a huge scam.

Priorities USA already has a $20m ad buy for this: https://mobile.twitter.com/TheRickWilson/st...936749296685056

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 08:45 AM) If you honestly believe this, how do those things not work in reverse? That is the problem with this entire line of thought... it really isn't linear. Structural racism isn't a two way street. The prejudices and assumptions minorities face aren't the same as a white person is going to face. That's why it doesn't work in reverse. That's easy the Supreme Court will throw out a case when it's shown that the prosecution worked to get an all white jury for a minority defendant - they are well aware of these realities. So it's not linear, and trumps racism doesn't actually flow logically from a recognition of structural racism.

https://twitter.com/FaceTheNation/status/739436549842964481

"I'm building a wall he's Mexican." His lawyers haven't asked for a recusal or alleged anything wrong, this is just his way of lashing out over rulings he doesn't like. Trying to defend attacking a judge for having Mexican parentage is just pathetic. ps the law firm in question donated to the Clinton Global Initiative, not to Clinton's campaign, and this lawsuit stretches back to before Trump's candidacy. Complaining about "the LaRaza lawyers Group or something like that" is like complaining that a judge is biased because they belong to the local NAACP chapter. And the judge didn't "appoint" the law firm for the plaintiffs (Trump is the defense); they brought the case originally and he just certified them when class status was granted. You're being lied to again by conservative "news" sources.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 08:02 PM) Only white people can be racist and biased as judges, juries, and police? This is the entire problem with this line of thinking. If only the same race can judge a race fairly, how is Trump wrong? It's just a basic statistical fact of what happens more frequently when all white juries try minorities or whites accused of crimes against minorities. It's something that is well recognized by social scientists and judges and Lawyers. Racism doesn't solve racism, but neither does wilful ignorance. Recognizing racial power structures and how they don't work equally for both sides is a necessary step to addressing racism. Pretending it doesn't exist only perpetuates the issue.

I mean honestly you're trying to say that trumps racism is something that arose out of fairly modern liberal views on race rather than something that's been the bedrock of this country's white supremacist history. It's just ridiculous.

Oh ok. This is more about your incessant need to prove that is actually liberals' fault for everything bad.

That comparison only works if you ignore the differences in racial power and social structures. Basically agree to disagree, but from an actual leftist it liberal perspective, what you're saying doesn't add up and so it looks pretty silly to to try to blame trumps explicit anti minority /pro white supremacy rhetoric on an ideology that focuses on racial power structures in the first place.

Buehrle what do you think about trump attacking a judge for having Mexican parents?

Can you actually explain how "being black gives you a different perspective on race" is racist and how it's similar to trumps explicit racism? Does "black like me" represent a racist ideal, and if so, can you say what that ideal is?

That's a pretty ridiculous take. Eta do you really not see a difference between claiming a judge with Mexican heritage can't judge you impartially because of your garbage immigration views and the idea that lived experiences give different perspectives? U can boil that down to a pithy "walk a mile in someone else's shoes" and that's not even close to what the orange baby con man is saying.

Also lol if you think that the secret service is going to shoot anyone, enjoy November!

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 12:01 PM) The misogyny wont get any play because feminists turn the other way when it suits them. They conveniently ignored all of Bill Clinton's dalliances because he was 'on their side'. There was even one prominent member that said she would get down on her knees and give him a blow job so he could leave interns alone as thanks for helping to keep abortion legal. But if the woman that got egged was a minority and/or a Hillary supporter, wow, 24/7 coverage about how Trump hates the ladies, war on women, yada yada yada. All this virtue signaling by the Trump protesters is going to lead to the secret service shooting someone, and I will laugh at them. They keep trying to outdo the previous protest to show what good little liberals they are. And half of them are outside agitators. Telemundo got caught staging rioters for 'maximum effect'. crickets. Keep protesting him the way you are. Every time you do, you push a few more Republicans who were on the fence about voting for him into the plus column. Are you a trump voter?

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 3, 2016 -> 09:30 AM) This was really upsetting to me. This is so blatant and horrible. This isn't the first time that it has been thrown out that essentially the only impartial judges can be old white men, but from a presidential candidate it's ridiculous. It's pretty scary. All of this is. But, it is worth remembering that BUsh fired a bunch us attorneys for failing to prosecute fluffed cases of voter fraud against ACORN. But at least they tried to be discreet! This is a man openly telling us he will not obey the institutional norms that have led this country. It's terrifying. The prop 8 idiots in California tried a similar argument because the judge in their case was gay. Only straight white men have the power of impartiality! That argument literally for laughed out of court though, and that's part of the reason I don't think trumps judge is going to suffer any adverse consequences from being the target of trumps explicit racism.

Illinois doesn't have a recall mechanism. Blago was impeached but rauner hasn't done anything deserving of that. Can't see him winning again, but that's not for two more years.

In the last week, wait times for myself and a couple of coworkers has been five minutes or less.

QUOTE (Tex @ Jun 3, 2016 -> 07:45 AM) This is not better on a world stage. It's not better on any stage. His meltdown yesterday was entertaining

Bmags voted for him, I hold him personally responsible.

I don't think being a racist piece of garbage creates an actual "conflict of interest"