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Brothers plead guilty to beating homeless immigrant

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 17, 2016 -> 04:16 PM) They want to b**** and moan and be given the privilege that whites have had forever. The nerve of them, getting uppity like that!

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 17, 2016 -> 04:01 PM) By showing no leadership on the Black Lives Matter issue. By very rarely going out to the sites of violence like St. Louis. Ferguson was HUGE and no leadership from the top. It was like he didn't want to get involved. This declare your white privilege thing is not going away and only going to result in violence when the wrong whites are provoked. No town hall meetings or national conferences on issues/race/economy. He was a do-nothing president, but that's fine. Many do nothing. I said I liked him personally and as a Sox fan and I stand by that. By all accounts, he likes a good smoke and a good game of basktball and seems like a GREAT dad and husband. He rocks, but as President? Big fat D-minus! Do you know what a "consent decree" is?

things were much better when the economy was entering the worse recession any of us have seen in our lifetimes, agreed.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 17, 2016 -> 08:52 AM) Dear lord. Don't see anything about the anti-vaxxers, but jesus christ. That came from a Jill Stein interview or something, I'll see if I can dig that up. It was very much hedging about "oh well we need more research!" without taking a firm stance one way or the other. I think that's an example of playing to their base more than something Stein earnestly believes herself. They're also very strongly anti-nuclear power. The two major parties definitely do everything they can to entrench themselves, but 3rd parties are generally niche for a reason.

It's been pointed out to greg several times that there are like maybe two people on this board who could even by called hillary fans with most of the rest of the liberals offering lukewarm support, but facts never stopped a greg argument before so

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 16, 2016 -> 11:10 PM) Also, with so many people in line at once how is that not a huge security threat? It is!

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ May 16, 2016 -> 06:07 PM) Has anyone found out why this suddenly became an issue in the last 7 days? Were there massive layoffs or something? I haven't had an issue at either airport in years. This is why I'm scratching my head. I've already had a dozen flights out of Midway this year, and the security lines were all pretty typical.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 17, 2016 -> 06:57 AM) link? http://www.gp.org/social_justice/#sjHealthCare

It's definitely just about fear of straight people taking advantage of this to still do things that are illegal, says the man who's initial reaction to Obergefell was "so what, doesn't matter, all you got is a piece of paper, people should focus on the economy!" I'm going to be a bit skeptical that this isn't anything more than a shift to attacking the "T" part of LGBT since there's been a big social shift on the "LGB" part.

How many schools still have fully nude showering anyway? That wasn't a thing when I was in high school.

A bad post but not nearly as bad as your response. As others have noted, same-sex abuse by coaches or teachers happens and yet I don't see declarations that people won't send their children to public restrooms or shower rooms because there will be someone else there.

As has already been pointed out to you, drag and transgendered are not the same thing.

jesus just stop already. Obama's ratings are going up because people are realizing that we're facing a future President Trump or President Clinton and the collective feeling is:

On the other end of the spectrum, the Green party kinda-sorta accepts anti-vaxxer nonsense and other medical woo like homeopathy.

A reminder that the Libertarian Party's official stance is against essentially all regulations including environmental, safety and health and that they oppose the public accommodations requirements of the Civil Rights Act. They oppose the government issuing debt aka US Treasury Bonds; want to abolish the income tax; want to abolish all social safety net programs such as social security, medicare and medicaid; and they oppose a standard legal tender issued by a central bank, instead favoring competing currencies offered by different banks (this has been tried to disastrous results in the past). They would abolish public education. This is all straight from their official party platform. I would not agree that they are a reasonable party and instead argue that they have a very radical ideology, with the ultimate goal to essentially reset the government to what is was in the late 19th century. edit: of course, a vote for a party doesn't mean you embrace their entire platform, but they're not the "cut taxes a bit and legalize pot, who cares about conservative social issues" party.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ May 13, 2016 -> 12:58 PM) The GOP seemingly did just about anything you can to prevent it. What more could they have done? Taken him seriously from the start (I've read that none of the other candidates did oppo research on him before February!), coalesced around one not-Trump early on rather than splitting the vote 16 ways. Don't know that it would have for sure worked, but they didn't really have any sort of coherent strategy or plan. Hell, their last, best hope ended up being Ted Cruz!

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ May 13, 2016 -> 12:06 PM) (1) The White House felt compelled to draft a letter and send it out to every school district stating the DoJ's position on trans rights. Yes, indirectly it's responding to NC, but its doing so nationally, not locally and specifically to NC and the law. Ok? It was in response to a crap law. How much time and resources do you think it took to draft that letter? We're arguing about it because bigots are making it an issue and attacking transgendered people. This does not preclude discussions of voting rights (which you agreed with Scalia back in Shelby County that they were a 'racial entitlement'!), property rights or anything else. The alternative is that states like NC attack LGBT rights and nothing is done because you don't care. You haven't actually presented a coherent argument so You're contradicting yourself here. Trans people have been going into the bathrooms of their choice for years. This law makes it explicitly illegal for them to enter the bathroom of the gender they present as. Why do you think that isn't a change? Why did NC pass the law then? It is embarrassing that the federal government has to do that, yes. That doesn't mean it's embarrassing for the federal government to do that. It's embarrassing every time they have to enforce civil rights and equal protection.

Trump absolutely did do this in the past

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ May 13, 2016 -> 11:50 AM) But legally do you HAVE to get those cars repaired? I wouldn't be selling this thing, I'd just drive it until it dies. The issue with a flood damaged car is a never-ending series of hard to trace electrical issues.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ May 13, 2016 -> 11:48 AM) That's actual fascism, not like the internet "I don't like that guy's policies" fascism. He's already said he wants to change libel laws to allow him to sue anyone who says anything bad about him. This is at least marginally defensible since they're related concepts, are usually deliberately conflated, and are similar words. People should still know the difference, but I think that's an order of magnitude less bad than thinking unemployment today is higher than January 2009.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ May 13, 2016 -> 11:49 AM) Yeah! I really hate when the federal government spends money attacking crappy, regressive laws passed by the states that are intended to discriminate against a minority population. Civil rights and equal protection are low priority issues. If a minority is small enough (1000 people according to jenks, in reality more like 1 million), it's a waste of time for the federal government to protect them (but not a waste of time for NC to pass their law?). Standing up for minority rights against bigots is embarrassing for both sides, as is apparently caring about black people getting shot.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ May 13, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) Yeah you're right. It's important for the federal government to spend time on something that affects so few people. Great use of resources. We don't have bigger and more important problems in this country. Bathroom rights is clearly the top priority. 1) The federal government is responding to NC's law. 2) The federal government is actually capable of doing more than one thing at a time. For example, they can prosecute both minor crimes and major multi-state terrorism conspiracy charges. 3) What you said does not actually validate your "both sides" attempt. 4) You seem to have completely ignored that the basis for your argument, that these laws didn't change anything, is actually completely wrong.

No, it's embarrassing for the bigots, and there's nothing to actually back up the "status quo" you claimed. Transgendered people who present as the gender they identify with (e.g. someone born a male but who now looks and acts female) did not go to the bathroom of the sex listed on their birth certificate as you seem to think they would. There's no dumb "both sides" going on here, there's one side being s***ty bigots.

This is why we can't have nice policy arguments: